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You had to do a lot of twisting and turning with weak equations to make that work!!! :Laughingoutloud:What man taught you to falsely equate John 3 with Genesis 2, 2 Peter and Genesis 1? :jest::jest::jest: How about this: In John 1 Jesus is baptized with water and the Spirit descended upon him...

Would you care to answer the question dodgeball Scott?

Hey Brakelite, In an earlier post you said, and I quote: "Yes, baptism does save." I agreed with you. Now you are saying that we don't agree on anything.....but a few words later say, "one is saved by baptism." Very confusing.....o_O There is no "if the water of the flood saved". Scripture...

Hey junChosen, It appears you consider yourself a "professing Christian". Do you think YOU 'know what you are talking about concerning the spiritual things of God'? You seem to be suggesting you do when you say "they have no inkling/idea as to what they are saying. " Do you consider yourself...

What does that mean? NOT a doctor's handbook?

Lol....How can one be born again Scott???????????? OF WATER AND SPIRIT...........Just like I and Jesus said. Born of water (when the amniotic water sac ruptures during pregnancy) is what happens to everyone. Is everyone born again of Spirit when the sac ruptures...

He did. But you and your teachers don't.

That was for the Jews. Are you a Jew?

When Jesus shed his blood did that remit the sins of atheist? The NT is WET with water baptism. You reject the teachings in the NT. :vgood:

If? IF? Scripture says it does. You say it doesn't. There is no "if". Jesus shedding his blood for the sins of the world has NOTHING to do with water baptism. Two separate things.....

Oh goodness....hmmx1:

How about if we quote Jesus words instead of your revision of His words: Born again of WATER and Spirit (John 3:3)

Yup, all of us in the "water cult" were taught that water washes away your sin. Luke, the leader of our cult, was the first one to teach it in Acts 22:16. We agree with Luke. Who is it that you agree with that teaches opposite of that? Ellen G. White?:running:Run far away from her if it is...

Hello Behold, Jesus told Nicodemus that one cannot enter the kingdom of God unless they are born again. Jesus then said that one is born again thru water and Spirit. But it seems you are suggesting that a person is born again BEFORE water and Spirit. For 2,000 years of Christianity water and...

Hey Behold, Jesus (Scripture) says baptize all in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit!!! Behold says one can be baptized in Jesus Name OR in the Name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Which one should I follow.....:contemplate:

Hey Behold, When did I say or The Church teach that water has magical power to wash away sin?

Just answer the question amigo instead of playing word games: Did that passage from Acts 2 say that the children believed or were of a certain age??

Hello Brakelite, I know this is a complete waste of my time but here we go....:cool: I am glad we agree that baptism does save. However, it seems your men have taught that the baptism Peter is speaking of in 1 Peter 3:21 is not water baptism..........even though "the immediate phrase and...

Huh? How did Jesus save Abraham if Jesus had yet to be born? I don't get your theory....

What man taught you this non-sense?