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Oh goodness....Sooooo Mike Gendor, and ex-Catholic, is a reliable source? But the men who were students of the Apostles are not???????????? Does that men ex-Protestants are reliable sources?????? Or even men who started the Protestant Reformation. Are they reliable???? You disagree with...

There is nothing "missing".....that is why I am so confused. Who was right there in your face?????????????

Thank you for making my point Rella. YOU decide what the Truth is and what it isn't.......You seem to believe that Ellen White has some truth. Maybe even Martin Luther has some Truth? But ultimately YOU KNOW the Truth and who is right and who is wrong. Thanks for your time Rella. PS: I...

Lol Johann...Hold on!!! HOLD ON!!! :jest::jest::jest: You accept the writings/teachings of Mike Gendron, a former Catholic, but you reject the teachings/writings of the Apostolic Fathers????????????? :IDK: Do you ever read/accept the teachings/writings of former Protestants who converted to...

Lol....lets be honest here Johann. You seek out the writings of men who support what YOU believe and then you quote those men. If those men don't support what YOU believe then YOU reject them....but if YOU can find a quote from a man that supports what YOU believe then YOU accept them. It is...

No, according to YOU babies were not baptized. Scripture is silent on the issue. It sugest that babies were baptized (entire families which include babies) but it does not say one way or the other. If you have a passage that says babies were not or should not be baptized, please provide it...

Quote the passage from Scripture that says babies were not baptized and I will join your church. Mary

In 1 PETER he indicates water baptism. Acts 8 with the Eunuch is water baptism. Jesus was baptized in water. Should we not walk in His steps? If not water baptism in Acts 2:38 then, in your opinion, what kind of baptism was it? .

Ok Rella, you have me absolutely confused. You suggested that The Catholic Church does not adhere to the commandment that we are not to worship or make idols. Is that not what you suggested in post #81??????????? Quote from you in post #81: I wonder why you dropped a commandment?

Well Rella, that explains A LOT.....You are always right and no 'church', even the one you attend, is ever right. YOU fulfil 1 Timothy 3:15 and Matthew 18:17.

Are you serious??????????

Oh goodness.....What man taught you this? If Joseph and Mary were "approved" to have sexual relations, then why was Mary surprised by Gabriels announcement that she would give birth to the son of God?

I wouldn't be either..........if you or your Protestant friends could give any evidence of that Mary had any other child than Jesus....but you can't...SURPRISE!

Lol David. You are right. We are surprised that you Protestants have rejected the 2,000-year teaching of Christianity and accepted the 500-year teaching of some of the men of the Reformation. I say some of the men of the Reformation because Luther and Calvin didn't even teach what you believe...

Hey....Johann.....Are you using a quote of a 'saint' (Euthymius) from the 4th century and a bible scholar (Paul Schanz) from the 19th century to support what YOU believe? Curious Mary

Thanks Rella, I agree with your statement that 'nowhere in any bible does it say they did not come together in the marriage bed'. Just as important is the FACT that 'nowhere in any bible does it say that they DID come together in the marriage bed'. That means we have to rely on the translation...

Your point was mute because we are not disagreeing with each other on that point..... :IDK:

You never answered the question: Based on the passages from Scripture I have given you AND a historical account from 1,700 years ago (Eusebius) that accounts for those "brothers" do you still believe what your 16th century men have taught you? Curious Mary

Oh goodness Rella.....why are we going down this off the subject rabbit hole???????? The Church has not "dropped a commandment". Please give your evidence that it has! The Church does not now and has never condoned the worshiping of images! That is a Protestant lie that started AFTER the...

Yup Rella, and look at the line right after what you highlighted in red: It is not intended to say anything about the future beyond that point. So your point is mute...