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Well Lewis, Martyr and Wright came before you, so I don't think they can have echoed your belief. Well we are getting somewhere. Previously you have accused me of following tradition, and more latterly of teaching heresy. The difference is your reluctance to follow the Scripture where it...

You are entitled to stop at any time you wish, but that does not affect my desire to display the truth; not especially to you, though hope springs eternal, but to any others who may read this thread. In your fevered imagination you may believe that I have affirmed that 'withdrawing of help' is...

Steve Chalke is certainly not right, but it is of course true to say that it is against God's nature to punish the righteous in place of the wicked. That is why it was necessary for God Himself in the Person of Jesus Christ to come and satisfy His own justice. Nor does the Lord Jesus condone...

Well you are very unwise to take your theology from C.S. Lewis, and even more unwise to do so from N.T. Wright. But I am not accusing these men out of one corner of my mouth of teaching heresy, and then, out of the other corner, saying that they're not heretics. As for Justin Martyr, I claim...

not being funny but I spoke 2 u b4, ur just giving me opinion!! with no scripture, u need 2 go and study scripture more, history, look up bible studies, commentaries, bible says study 2 show urself approved, 2 timothy 2:15 do u agree wiv dat verse?

You just make this stuff up as you go along, don't you? Romans 3:10 is quoting Psalms 14:2-3. It is 'the children of men,' all mankind, who have 'turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is none who does good, no, not one.' And who is 'righteous Iver'? Never heard of him!

:rolleyes: Read Proverbs 1:8-19, especially taking in to account verse 19. Then read 1 Timothy 6:6-10. 'For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil.....' Or to put it another way, greed is the root from which grow corruption, theft, embezzlement and murder. :p

I think you'll find it does. Greed is the root from which grows corruption, theft, embezzlement and murder.

You have to teach a baby everything: how to be clean, how to hold a spoon, how to clean his teeth and so forth, but you never have to tell them how to be naughty! They get that without any trouble. You never need to say to a little child, "Now Johnny, this is how you tell a lie; you think of...

First of all, let me agree absolutely with the last part of your post. We have to battle daily with sin and with temptation: the world, the flesh and the devil as the Puritans used to say. But let me address the first part of your post now. The Christian is a new creation in Christ Jesus...

It is we who must fight our battles, but we do it in the power of the Spirit (eg. Colossians 3:5). The idea of 'Let go and let God' is false.

Simply not the case. You need to compare Scripture with Scripture. In all three Synoptic Gospels, the text above is immediately followed by the Transfiguration (Matthew 17:1-8; Mark 9:2-8; Luke 9:28-36). 2 Peter 1;16-18. 'For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to...

Merry Christmas to all on the C.B. :) Enjoy a blessed time with your families and with your Lord and Saviour.

I am glad to hear that you do not affirm Steve Chalke, but he would certainly affirm you. Indeed He does not, and indeed He did, but that does not change the fact that that Yahweh laid all the sins of believers upon Him (Isaiah 53:6) and He bore them for us. The Lord Jesus tells us that God...

On the contrary, the arguments - or at least, the assumptions - you make are similar to those made by Steve Chalke; that God would never do such a thing to His Son. A heretic is someone who has heretical religious views. In claiming that my views are heretical, you are ipso facto calling me a...

1. Being regarded as a heretic by the likes of you I regard as a badge on honour. I will say though that the word 'heresy' has no place in a discussion forum. It is cheap and easy to accuse someone of heresy, and it is a refuge of scoundrels who cannot argue their case. It is shameful that...

I do not accept that your interpretation is at all legitimate. Here's my dictionary definition again, with a little emphasis: Oxford Concise Dictionary. Abandon. v.t.Give up to another's control or mercy; yield oneself completely to a passion or impulse; give up (possession, habit, game)...

The 'Holy Place' of Hebrews 9:12 is described as the 'Holiest of all' in Hebrews 9:8 and 'heaven itself' in Hebrews 9:24. They all appear to be the same place. The NKJV is a fine translation, though not above improvement (I hope a revised version may appear shortly). It is much to be...

Well if evil cannot dwell with God, and God dwells in us, then evil cannot dwell in us. Game over, I think. But I don't understand what you are trying to show with Gal. 4:15. You need to clarify if you want me to discuss it with you.

Well I suppose we're getting somewhere. We both agree that Christ was forsaken. Now I suppose we have to go and study our dictionaries to see how 'forsake' differs from 'abandon.' Oxford Concise Dictionary. Abandon. v.t.Give up to another's control or mercy; yield oneself completely to a...