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  1. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    How do we like this one? ... Paul wrote this to the Corinthian church concerning his words of rebuke in 1 Corinthians that he had sent to them concerning some particular sin(s). They really needed to be sorrowful and repent. “… the pain (from his rebuke) caused you to repent and change your...
  2. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the...
  3. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    To put it into one short sentence ... The whole entirely of the NT dictates that true saving belief includes obedience. Obedience to what? ... Jesus' commandments, the teachings in the epistles, etc. .
  4. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    Apparently, you are blind to much of the NT. Our salvation is a co-operative effort between God and us! E.G. Why do you ignore all of the many conditional "IF" verses in the epistles? HUH? ... WHY? ... BTW, any excuse will do! .
  5. Zachary

    Believers stay righteous through their obedience

    There is absolutely NO question about this! Satan has at least one of his henchmen at the door of every Christian forum. Not sayin' you are one of 'em. However, it's high time that you wake up and get with God's program! You have been greatly deceived by your mortal enemy. .
  6. Zachary

    Believers stay righteous through their obedience

    Depends what you mean by good works! "Work out your salvation with fear and trembling!" Phil 2:12 Do you consider the following to be good works? -- loving Jesus enough to obey His commandments (John 14) -- practicing righteousness (1 John 2 and 1 John 3) .
  7. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    Here again, you refuse to accept the teaching about what the NT word "believe" really means! It means much different than the secular Greek word pistis, pisteou, etc. One cannot put into one word what is involved with truly "believing" in the NT. .
  8. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    Quick note: IMO, both Ephesians and Colossians were ONLY written to "the faithful". --------------- 1:1 ----------- 1:2 --------------------------------------------- The faithful are the BACs who love Jesus enough to obey His commandments, among other things! .
  9. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    What do you mean when you say, "get away with doing them"? Get away with habitual sinning and not being consigned to hell. And He has promised . . . I will Never leave you. Ever! Ah, yes ... those who became estranged from Christ and fell from grace ... those ones! .
  10. Zachary

    Believers stay righteous through their obedience

    May I say to everyone that ... the possessive apostrophe "s" has nothing to do with plural. Usually, the plural is indicated by adding an "s". This seems to be prevalent in the USA more and more. And while we"re at it ... Guess what Americans got from the KJV? ... our/their heart instead of...
  11. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    Okay, this above I consider to be the most fun to delve into! But, art thou ready? ... Nah, but maybe someone else is. The 3 people groups destined for the Lake of Fire: cowards … unbelievers … habitual sinners So, we see there are cowards and unrepentant sinners who are NOT in the vast group...
  12. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    The churches are full of so-called "Christians" ... who are NOT even trying to obey Jesus' commandments. Believe it, or not. Question: Can BACs get away with doing these things, whilst non-believers cannot get away with doing them? To me, that would be total insanity! FYI, I don't think God is...
  13. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    What do we do with the idea that some were those terrible things, and some were NOT? Hey, we have 2 groups of people here. Does this mean that some were NOT washed, sanctified, justified? I'm havin' a temporary brain freeze here ... maybe I need more sleep. .
  14. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    Did you leave out you, or did I miss you? .
  15. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    ABSOLUTELY! Of course, if you really have true saving faith ... then you love Jesus and are obeying Jesus' commandments, etc. Maybe you take all this for granted. In which case, you think I'm some kind of nut case. Butski, I'm here to warn those so-called "believers" who are deceived into...
  16. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    Meanwhile, how're we doin' with the 10 dire warning types about losing salvation? Not 10 warnings, but 10 warning-types ... huge difference!
  17. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    So, another false doctrine that you're involved in! However, there is a possibility of a mini-pre-trib rapture of only those who are "walking the walk" (of which there are very few) ... who won't be tracked down by the antichrist and beheaded. Julie Whedbee has been talking of this for years...
  18. Zachary

    10 different NT warning-types against eternal security

    I agree with all of your above. Tongues are readily accepted as proof of receiving the baptism with the Holy Spirit, which the 120 received on the Day of Pentecost. This baptism was the promised gift where the Spirit comes UPON. Of course, the 120-12=108 were also born-again at this point in...
  19. Zachary

    Believers stay righteous through their obedience

    Foist of oil ... who are these "Christians" you refer to (chapter and verse)? Second of oil ... I don't see the BIG difference. Perhaps you could explain it to me. .