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To compliment what you've said. Kecharitomene doesn't mean full of grace; I have yet to see a reputable lexicon that defines charitoo as 'full of grace.' And even if it did it still doesn't mean sinless. Also 2 Cor 9:8 says that we christians have all grace... 2 Cor 9:8 8 And God is able to...

And lets not forget that the word 'roman' is used over 30 times in their own catechism. Pot meet kettle.

Bread of life. Not a loaf of bread. Or a wafer. And since when is there 504 verses in John 6? How about read the first 50 verses then get back to me. Jesus also said to gouge out your eye or cut off your hand. Why do you doubt what the Lord said?

Jesus is fully God and fully human. What he is not is bread to be eaten.

What does that have to do with anything?

You've given zero facts from scripture that what your church teaches has any validity. And it doesn't. I can provide verses where God indwells His born again believers. Nowhere does the bible say God becomes lifeless bread that has to be carried because it can't walk. It can't talk. It does...

I agree but the person I was responding to thinks they never sin. Then comes back later to say well ya but not willfully. Which is also not true. Most sin is willful.

All this to explain why not one thing happens before, during or after bread becomes god. Got it. I also noticed not single reference to the Bible. And lastly no, all ecfs were not unanimous in this belief. There were a number of different views on the nature of the Lord's Table. But since you're...

I didn't see anything worth responding to. What you posted is historically inaccurate. And ya I've read books on the Canon. So don't pretend you know anything about people here.

Right. Two standard catholic answers are; The church teaches and it's a mystery. They have to say 'the church teaches' because whatever they are arguing for isn't in the bible. Which pertains to all distinctly rc doctrines and dogmas.

Francis is so bad youre already looking to the next pope? Hes taking catholicism down a road it may not recover from. And once all the scandals are settled and all the state attorneys have jailed all the priests currently being investigated there might not be much of your church left. A new pope...

The mark of the beast isn't some vague, abstract thing people just fall blindly into. Its a deliberate, willful and forced mark to receive or not. Rev 13:16 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their...

Most catholics i talk with don't even understand sola scriptura. Whenever they bring it up, they do so incorrectly. But if ss is so bad maybe they can tell us about the sorry state of their own church with an infallible (allegedly) pope? Why is there scandal on top of scandal when they are all...

And this post is wrong on many levels. Too many errors to correct. "Scripture only has authority when they are faithful to church doctrine?" This makes little sense. Thats just one.

Thank you. Sometimes its the simple explanations huh?

If youre saved, how many of your sins were in the future when Jesus went to the cross?

I know what you mean. I don't need to get into specifics but i could tell a story or two about what happened when i stood up for the gospel. But there is also persecution on another level that not many in the U.S. see (assuming youre in the usa). Go to china or iran or saudi arabia and preach...

His repeated attempts to shove 'sinless' into kecharitomene is tiring. No lexicon translates chaitoo (the lexical form of kecharitomene) as sinless. In fact there is a term in the n.t. for full of grace and its not kecharitomene AND it never occurs in Luke. Mary was favored in verse 28, shes...

Persecution takes different forms. Paul told Timothy that if we desire to live Godly we will be persecuted. If youre being persecuted for the gospel, consider it joy! You'll have reward in heaven.

Um, the Holy Spirit lives in sinful people. Our sin is forgiven, our certificate of debt is nailed to the cross but we still sin. We aren't slaves to sin, we have been given His righteousness, He has cleansed us from all unrighteousness....shall i go on? Yes on this side of heaven it is possible...