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Amen Vengle! It is a broken and a contrite heart that the Lord desires!

Only we must understand this is for those who faith. They are not all Israel who are Israel. ;)

Good choice of quotation, ByGrace! :) I think it is both ourselves who crucify us, and God, because as you say, we cannot do it ourselves. We must do our part, and willingly let God do the rest... We must be as lambs led to slaughter.

You do not believe then, that man can actually be the instrument of God? You do not believe then that God works through his vessels? When it says, it is no longer I who lives, but Christ lives in me. Do you believe we can actually STOP living for the lusts of men and live for the will of God...

Well yes, there is a but if. You take all the positive verses of the Bible, and say 'see, we're safe', but you push aside all the 'ifs'. IF you continue... IF you persevere... God can indeed say 'it is finished', because he has done it, but now the ball is in our court. By definition, but...

Faith also means faithfulness. Is it dead works to obey God because we believe him, or is it works of faith? One cannot truly repent and truly have faith without following it with obedience.

Saved by grace through faith and not of works. Yes, but the meaning you put on this is not true. Grace is the power of God, which we have access to by faith, by which we stand. You use that very sentence to nullify the rest of what it says, that we are called for good works prepared in advance...

Yes, grace is not of the works of the flesh. But it is FOR the works prepared in advance by the Father. We are empowered by grace for a reason.

Grace is the empowerement to fulfill the commands of God, not a license to sin! Though you won't admit to it directly, that is what you promote. To you, grace requires no overcoming and using it to be as Christ, only 'believing' it's yours, and saying thank you God, see you in the next life...

By faith they conquered the Land. Does that mean they didn't take up a sword? Does that mean they didn't move forward? Because that's what you're advocating. Men are told they are cut off because they didn't BEAR FRUIT, not because they stopped believing they were saved (Hebrews 6)! You...

The above is what happens when men search the scriptures, and draw their own conclusions from them. Thus we have the Arminian fighting with the Calvinist both using the same Bible! Unless we put aside all our fears, all our preconceptions, and all indoctrinated beliefs backed by whatever...

People are so desirous to bring everything to a point of 'it is only God who does it' as though we did not have a choice in it'. There is such a fear in our modern Christianity of the idea that we must walk hand in hand with God, and we must work out our salvation, that it has fallen into a...

Brother, I have searched this thread and found that I did NOT say we sanctified ourselves. I have said we must continue unto sanctification, and that sanctification is the process which comes after being made alive in the Spirit, which are both true! Sanctification is the working out of our...

Interesting, Netchaplain! :) It says, using different words, that after reconciliation comes sanctification. First the Lord makes us glad that we are free, then we must build the type of character that remains free, abides in the Lord, and walks in his power. When we are first freed, God...

Insight, With all due respect... You tend to assume that everyone holds things from these creeds, or other things, and assume that you know all these things. You are so sure you have found the meaning of the scriptures that you are sure that anyone who holds beliefs different from yours has...

Agreed! With the brothers, we do this already now. :)

Believing we are reconciled makes us reconciled? You base everything on 'believe it and you have it'! The reality is that if we are reconciled, which if we repent and believe we are, then we must move on to sanctification. What you say amounts to sitting in the wilderness, and saying 'when...

They did not believe they could take the land, which God said he would give them. God has made us free through Jesus Christ. It says that by his grace we STAND. It says that if we are in the light, we walk as he walked. Those who do not believe this are disobedient, because they see with...

Not sure if this is in any way directed at me, Ducky, so I will clarify what I meant, just in case. :) Any nationalism is carnal, and comes from carnal reasoning. Whether we be patriotic Americans, or anti-semites, or zionists, all of it is carnal. We are to understand that God's people are...

I think it comes down to this: if God allowd unloving people in heaven, and evildoers, of bad character, there would be no justice for the righteous, who would once again have to suffer at the hand of the wicked! God is patient, and he wishes for none to perish, and so he seeks out that all...