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yes they do but when it comes to overall death and destruction they are not in the same league with the US "Christian " nations. our armies kill millions, one million in Iraq alone, and ensure the global south, the majority of the world population stays poor and starving. i wonder what Jesus...

so the spirit of the Most High can not be in anyone because of the doctrine that Jesus is the Most High? im not understanding what one has to do with the other?

nobody else did, the church had to burn people alive just to make them believe. they also had to edit scripture. very shameful.

dont forget that new Christians have to be taught the triity before they ever open a bible or they would never see it.

does that mean all husbands marry their sisters?

i dont think you understand what i am asking. im not asking if He was married. im asking why is the idea of Jesus being married such an offensive idea. yeah well we are all brothers and sisters as well but when i said children i was referring to physical offspring as in a man and women have a...

why is marriage unbiblical? i dont get the whole marry His own child thing, what are you talking about?

the gnostics didnt burn people alive, torture people and go on crusades like the roman Christians. thats another difference.

Thomas names James the successor to the group after Jesus which is why the book was rejected by imperial rome. this would undo their pope succession which they needed for their control over the people. ironic that James really did lead the group after Jesus. i like Thomas as well as the...

i dont mean to derail this, but why is it such a big deal to so many to suggest Jesus got married? if someone suggested Jesus committed murder, worshiped other gods, taught you could buy your way into heaven, these ideas could be offensive. i dont see why marriage would be so offensive to people.

was the Most High empty? no ohh goodness gracious, i tell you what, you pick a name, whatever name you want. and what ever that is, why did no one get it until after Jesus and the 12?

trinity/many gods/many persons/many natures, 3 in 1, 1 in 3 or anything other than the one and only one Most High that Jews and Jesus have always believed. why did no one get it?

its the Most High in all of them, the One is always the source. i see where you going, the word was the Most High and the word was Jesus therefore Jesus must be the Most High, doesnt work for me, this to me just means the spirit of the Most High was in Jesus. Jesus even tells us His works are...

if this means trinity why did no one understand it this way until years after Jesus and the 12 were gone? dont you thnk thats a bit suspect?

you asked if Is 41 4 was one person or two, i said one. p 500 you asked who was coming to save us? i thought this was a rhetorical question. my answer would be the Most High.

No where in that passage does it assign a name to the "us" in Gen 1 nor anywhere else. It's the Most High speaking, not Most High 1 talking to Most High 2 Where I am sitting the Most High is always one. I'm not a trinitarian so I never see it as three people talking to themselves.

There is no passage that assigns a name to us. The best you have is the isaiah passage where us is Isaiah and Most High.

Error, the savior is the prophasy. I think part of the problem with you guys is you don't focus on what Jesus did or taught, you only seem to focus on His nature, which is interesting but doesn't really improve oneself, following His example can improve you in infinite ways. 496 - us means the...

Moses wrote it. It's not a prophesy it's the story of creation. We have talked on this before. Yes there are always inner teachings, the spirit may lead you to see more, but that's for you alone, you can't start telling everyone "this is what it means cause the spirit told me" or the next guy...

What are you talking about? I'm talking about the "us" in Gen 1 and your talking about Isaiah the prophet. The Father speaks through prophets therefor Gen 1 is the Most High talking to Himself? This makes no sense at all to me.