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  1. jaybird

    The Case Against the Trinity

    Isaiah 6 8 is an example of why the Lord uses the term "us", He askes who shall I send, who will go for us. The Father uses the phrase "send for us" when someone got sent. I think this makes more sense than the Father talking to Himself.
  2. jaybird

    The Case Against the Trinity

    The Most High is prophesying to Himself, this is what your saying? The Gen creation story is a prophesy of a future event? You lost me
  3. jaybird

    The Case Against the Trinity

    If the Father is the Most High, and the Son is the Most High. Then it's still the Most High speaking to the Most High.
  4. jaybird

    The Case Against the Trinity

    Who do you think the Father is talking to? I think this is the divine council.
  5. jaybird

    The Case Against the Trinity

    so you think the Father was talking to himself? i dont think so, if this was true then the passage should stay consistent which it does not as it continues to say "He", not "they". if it was they then i think you would have a point but its not the way He talks (only 2 times) and never does...
  6. jaybird

    The Case Against the Trinity

    no one said anyone else created this world. the Father uses agents all the time, they dont act on their own, the Father is always the source of all power.
  7. jaybird

    The Case Against the Trinity

    in Gen 1 where man is created, the trins say the "us" is Most High 1 talking to Most High 2 and 3. how do you guys know He is talking to His other selves and not talking to someone else? this has always been the strangest one to me. without the doctrine i dont think anyone is gonna read this...
  8. jaybird

    The Case Against the Trinity

    the Shema was a pretty big deal to Judaism, they would recite it many times a day. Jesus said the greatest commandment was built on this foundation. then you fast forward to modern mainstream Christianity and the Shema seems to be forgotten. i wonder why? growing up baptist i cant remember my...
  9. jaybird

    The Case Against the Trinity

    Didn't Jesus agree with the unitarian Jews in Mark 12? That agreement was that the Most High was one, one meaning a Jewish non trinity "one".
  10. jaybird

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    ONLY WE DECIDE WHO IS A CHRISTIAN!!! this sounds exactly like the old inquisitions. what arrogance. teaching inventions of man is the body of Christ is why so many are walking/running from the trinity in droves.
  11. jaybird

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    it makes no sense. its contrary to logic and the bible. i am sure it makes perfect sense in your trinity world where yes means no, up means down, and everything else is backwards and inverted. but to someone outside of this indoctrination that relies on scripture, logic and sound doctrine, they...
  12. jaybird

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    and Jesus was always praying to himself, Jesus nature one was praying to Jesus nature two and all the rest. i told a trin that the doctrine was nonsensical, he asked what i meant, i said everytime you see Jesus and Father, replace with Most High, then you start seeing the Most High praying to...
  13. jaybird

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    now the Most High is not the Most High. no matter which way you go your doctrine is always in conflict with the scripture. if only we could burn people alive to force them through fear into believing. ???
  14. jaybird

    For those who deny the Most Holy Trinity!

    i answered on post 599
  15. jaybird

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    so now your making up another doctrine that Jesus was human in the heavens. ohh boy. . . .
  16. jaybird

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    and more passages that disprove the trinity John 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” G-D does not have a G-D.
  17. jaybird

    For those who deny the Most Holy Trinity!

    and more passages that disprove the trinity John 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” G-D does not have a G-D.
  18. jaybird

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    1 cor was taught after Jesus went back to the heavens
  19. jaybird

    For those who deny the Most Holy Trinity!

    my mistake, i will answer the way you answer my questions. Exodus 20 16 16“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. the Jews taught not to bear false witness therefore the trinity must be false.
  20. jaybird

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    nope your confused again. Jesus does not do "temporary" teachings that are true one day and null and void the next. hard to believe you guys take a straight teaching of Jesus, and turn it on its head just to make your manmade doctrine work. the Father continued to be greater after Jesus...