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    "The word was a god"?

    isos does not mean “absolute equality of nature” - cf. Matt. 20:12; Luke 20:36 (esp. LB). Even the noted trinitarian authority The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology admits that ison (and its related forms) “indicates more strongly an external, objectively measurable and...
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    "The word was a god"?

    Although it has been rejected by even many trinitarian Bible scholars, some others attempt to force an interpretation of morphe (μορφῇ) that includes the idea of “essence” or “nature.” They do this only at Phil. 2:6 (Jesus “was in the form [morphe] of God”) because the true meaning of morphe...
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    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    isos does not mean “absolute equality of nature” - cf. Matt. 20:12; Luke 20:36). Even the noted trinitarian authority The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology admits that ison (and its related forms) “indicates more strongly an external, objectively measurable and...
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    "The word was a god"?

    .......................................................... There could be some doubt about the meaning of the word harpagmos if we looked only at the NT Greek Scriptures (since harpagmos occurs only at Phil. 2:6 in the entire New Testament). We would then only have the meaning of the source...
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    "The word was a god"?

    I was aware of some of the Early Church Fathers saying that (including Athanasius), but not of the Catholic Church itself. Thank you.
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    "The word was a god"?

    ............................................ Some of the trinitarian sources which admit that the Bible actually describes men who represent God (judges, faithful Israelite kings, etc.) and God’s angels as gods (or a god) include: 1. Young’s Analytical Concordance of the Bible, “Hints and...
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    "The word was a god"?

    Johann wrote #515: "You are no scholar, so leave John 1:1 and lean not unto your own understanding. I know the urge to sound to sound [sic] sophomoric and highly intellectual and to know all the answers in the scriptures is fleshly driven, mere intellectual, stoical knowledge, acquired gnosis...
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    "The word was a god"?

    Johann wrote #515: "You are no scholar, so leave John 1:1 and lean not unto your own understanding. I know the urge to sound to sound [sic] sophomoric and highly intellectual and to know all the answers in the scriptures is fleshly driven, mere intellectual, stoical knowledge, acquired gnosis...
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    "The word was a god"?

    Johann wrote #515: "You are no scholar, so leave John 1:1 and lean not unto your own understanding. I know the urge to sound to sound [sic] sophomoric and highly intellectual and to know all the answers in the scriptures is fleshly driven, mere intellectual, stoical knowledge, acquired gnosis...
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    "The word was a god"?

    Johann: "nicely done"?? kathos - John 17:22.
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    "The word was a god"?

    Johann wrote #515: "You are no scholar, so leave John 1:1 and lean not unto your own understanding. I know the urge to sound to sound [sic] sophomoric and highly intellectual and to know all the answers in the scriptures is fleshly driven, mere intellectual, stoical knowledge, acquired gnosis...
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    "The word was a god"?

    First, Dropship said correctly that JESUS never claimed to be God. John 1:1 has JOHN saying that the Word was theos. Second, the use or non-use of the article is not a designator for the predicate noun. But, for count nouns as predicate nouns, it is a sign that the P.N. is definite or...
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    "The word was a god"?

    Expressions in the Bible like ‘in Christ’ - “denote membership in Christ and his church ... 1 Thess. 4:16; Ro. 8:1; 16:11” - Kittel, p. 233, and #45 in ‘Hints and Helps’, Young’s Analytical Concordance. And sure enough, when we look up these scriptures, we see that they use en, ἐν, which is...
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    "The word was a god"?

    The Greek word proskuneo (or proskyneo) is defined in the 1971 trinitarian United Bible Societies’ A Concise Greek-English Dictionary of the New Testament, p. 154: “[Proskuneo] worship; fall down and worship, kneel, bow low, fall at another’s feet.” Even the trinitarian W. E. Vine writes...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Philo died about 50 A.D. The Apostle John wrote his Gospel around 100 A.D.
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Yes, as we have seen above, a large number of highly distinctive descriptions of the Logos by Philo have also been used by John to describe his Logos: Jesus! These terms are used by Philo alone, not by other trinitarian-proposed sources of John’s Logos concept! After discussing all other...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Logos as "a god" and Philo We are told in an article by Dr. Frederick C. Grant of the Union Theological Seminary, New York City, “Another term found in koine [New Testament] Greek and adopted by the early Christians is Logos (Word), meaning...the divine mediator between God and the world (John...
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    "The word was a god"?

    .................................................................... .... And second, another way competent Bible scholars have interpreted the meaning of this name (Is. 9:6) is with the understanding that it (as with many, if not most, of the other Israelites’ personal names) does not apply...
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    "The word was a god"?

    .................................................. Notice that everywhere Jah is used by itself (except when accompanied by hallel) it has been changed by the “Christian” copyists. However, whenever Jah was accompanied by Hallel (“Praise”), the original Septuagint translators incorporated...
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    The Jehovah’s Witnesses Teach Jesus is Mighty God

    Examining the Trinity: Isa. 9:6 "Mighty God, Eternal Father"