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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    ............................................. Hebrews 1:8 The 'original copies' of Heb. 1:8 (P46 is the earliest - first to middle part of second century) says Ὁ θρόνος σου ὁ θεὸς εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα τοῦ αἰῶνος. (θεὸς is in its abbreviated form). Yes, literally the oldest NT Greek manuscripts read...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Trinitarian Greek expert, W. E. Vine, (although, for obvious reasons, he chooses not to accept it as the proper interpretation) admits that the literal translation of John 1:1c is: “a god was the Word”. - p. 490, An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, Thomas Nelson, Inc., 1983...
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    Revelation 22:13 What does it mean?

    ....................................... Jesus does not use the title 'Alpha and Omega'. See post #6 above. The RSV, NRSV, NASB, NEB, REB, NKJV, NAB (1991 ed.), ESV, ISV, NLT, 21st Century King James Version, Third Millennium Bible, and TEV show (by quotation marks and indenting) that Rev...
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    Why Does Jesus only Sees our Works, and not our Faith?

    James 2:25, NASB 26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.
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    Revelation 22:13 What does it mean?

    Is. 44:6 in the American Standard Version (ASV) says, "Thus saith Jehovah [the LORD - KJV], the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, Jehovah of hosts...." The "proof" here, according to a few trinitarians, is that there are two `different' Jehovahs [LORDs] mentioned! And one is the redeemer of the...
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    Revelation 22:13 What does it mean?

    ............................ It is easy to check out my findings. Just go to the sources I cited and look. It may be helpful for some to look up how quotation marks (beginning and ending) work. These are simply the results of my research. I don't believe the "JW/ non-Trinitarian...
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    Revelation 22:13 What does it mean?

    Is Jesus ‘Alpha and Omega’ in Rev. 22? Rev. 22:8-16. John is identified as the speaker in 22:8. The angel speaks in 9). The angel apparently continues speaking in (10). The angel may be still speaking in 11) --- or it could be John or even someone else (as implied in verse 10 in the...
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    God was manifest in the flesh

    .............................. Yes. The earliest Greek NT manuscripts are more accurate than the latest such mss. Therefore, since the earliest English translators did not have these much older manuscripts, their translations are not as accurate as the latest Bible translations which were...
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    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    ................................ Halfway down the post You'll see that the word sometimes translated "everlasting" in Hebrew is olam (Strong's #5769). Yom is the Heb. word for "day."
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    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    ...... Look up the page to post 1628.
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    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Micah 5:2 Some trinitarians tell us Micah 5:2 (or 5:1 in some versions) teaches that Jesus has always existed ("from everlasting" - KJV). And since only God has existed for all eternity, Jesus must be God! But look at other trinitarian translations of Micah 5:2. (E.g., "O Bethlehem ..., from...
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    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Immanuel Should Jesus really be considered to be God because he was symbolically “named” Immanuel (Is. 7:14; Mt. 1:23) which means “God is with us”?[1] No more so than Gabriel was calling himself God when he visited Mary and declared: “The Lord is with thee” - Luke 1:28. Nor did...
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    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Raise up? In English we use “rise” and “raise” with two distinctly different meanings. “Rise” is what a person or thing does by itself to itself: “I rise every morning at dawn;” “the sun will rise soon.” “Raise,” on the other hand, is what a person does to some other object or...
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    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Heb. 1:8 translated from Ps. 45:6 Psalm 45 is celebrating an Israelite king’s marriage, and the psalmist applies the words of Ps. 45:6, 7 literally to an ancient Israelite king. In fact, the trinitarian New American Standard Bible (NASB), Reference Edition, explains in a footnote for Ps. 45:1...
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    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    There is good evidence that the proper translation of Heb. 1:8 (as well as Ps. 45:6) should be “your throne is God forever” or “God is your throne forever.” If we look at some trinitarian authorities, we also see a preference for the “God is thy throne” rendering by some. Oxford professor and...
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    God was manifest in the flesh

    Only a relative few have understood the scriptures as identifying the one true God as the Father alone (John 17:1, 3). The Many, by far, have been taught (and will not change) by the teachings of a Church (beginning in 325 A.D.). Matt. 7:13, 14; 21-23.
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    God was manifest in the flesh

    sorry, I goofed. Somehow posted twice.
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    God was manifest in the flesh

    ....................................................................... 1 Tim. 3:16 (“God was manifest in the flesh”) As this is translated in the KJV it makes Paul say that Jesus is God “manifest in the flesh.” Although the KJV translates 1 Tim. 3:16 with “God” as above, nearly all...
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    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    ................................................................. Isaiah 9:6 One way competent Bible scholars have interpreted the meaning of this name at Is. 9:6 is with the understanding that it (as with many, if not most, of the other Israelites’ personal names) does not apply directly to...
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    1 John 5:20

    ..................................... 1 Tim. 3:16 (“God was manifest in the flesh”) As this is translated in the KJV it makes Paul say that Jesus is God “manifest in the flesh.” Although the KJV translates 1 Tim. 3:16 with “God” as above, nearly all other translations today use a word...