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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    ....................................................... I responded to this in post #102, 103 above. There are several NT Greek words in Phil. 2:6 which are misused by many trinitarian scholars. One of them is harpagmos. There could be some doubt about the meaning of the word harpagmos if...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    ..................................................................... Matt. 1:23, Immanuel Immanuel Should Jesus really be considered to be God because he was symbolically “named” Immanuel (Is. 7:14; Mt. 1:23) which means “God is with us”?[1] No more so than Gabriel was calling himself...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    ...................................................... 1 Timothy 3:16 Noted Bible scholar Dr. Frederick C. Grant writes: “A capital example [of NT manuscript changes] is found in 1 Timothy 3:16, where ‘OS’ (OC or ὃς, ‘who’) was later taken for theta sigma with a bar above, which stood for...
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    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Isaiah 45:5 KJV I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: NASB I am the Lord, and there is no one else; There is no God except Me. I will arm you, though you have not known Me, NIV I am the Lord, and there is no other; apart...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    #288 Christophany above "Omission of the article with "Theos" does not mean the word is "a god." If we examine the passages where the article is not used with "Theos" we see the rendering "a god" makes no sense (Mt 5:9, 6:24; Lk 1:35, 78; 2:40; Jn 1:6, 12, 13, 18; 3:2, 21; 9:16, 33; Ro 1:7...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Additional: “CLEAR CHALLENGES TO THE TRINITY DOCTRINE (F) -------- Explain why those Jews who sought to have Jesus killed (and even found people to lie about him as witnesses - Matt. 26:59-60) never accused him of claiming to be God (or even fully equal with God)! If there were any idea among...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    The fifth request for undisputed, clear, repeated evidence of a trinity (or that a person other than the Father is equally God with him) as requested in part #1 was: (E) Please give equally clear, undisputed scriptures where the Holy Spirit is called "God, the Holy Spirit." Again, when one...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    The fourth request for clear undisputed evidence of a trinity (or Jesus being 'equally God') asked for in part #1 above: "Since the Father is clearly, directly, and indisputably called "God, the Father," many, many times, and the Son and Holy Spirit are said by trinitarians to be equally the...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    In challenge (A) above we find that All the visions and dreams in all scripture which show God, show him as one person only, and in challenge (B) we discover that the word "three" is never used in describing God anywhere in clear, undisputed scripture. The next challenge, (C) above, is mostly...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    The second point asked for in the beginning above: (B) Please show where in scripture God is ever described using the word "three." Using Concordances for the KJV (Strong's and Young's Concordances) and the NASB (New American Standard Concordance of the Bible, Lockman Foundation 1981) I have...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    "The twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God, who was seated on the throne. And they cried: ‘Amen, Hallelujah! ["praise Jehovah "]’" - NIV. Another important vision of God is that of Stephen. "But Stephen, full of Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    PinSeeker pretends to answer Challenge A: "John 4:34, John 5:23, John 5:24, John 5:30, John 5:36, John 5:37, John 5:38, John 6:29, John 6:38, John 6:39, John 6:44, John 6:57, John 7:16, John 7:18, John 7:28, John 7:29, John 7:33, John 8:16, John 8:18, John 8:26, John 8:29, John 8:42, John 9:4...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    .................................................. So, take the simple, easy 5-part test in post 172 above. These things are straightforward, important aspects of a Biblical trinity.
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    .............................................. The knowledge of God and of Jesus Christ is understood to be of primary importance and is everlasting life (or death) to those who believe the Bible (John 17:1, 3; 2 Thess 1:7, 8.) And God demands He be worshiped in truth - (John 4:24) And, yet...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    (continued) Even the very trinitarian NAS Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible agrees that genos comes from ginomai [or gignomai 3] which means “to come into being” - p. 1640. And respected trinitarian scholars Liddell and Scott tell us (under “monogenes”) that monogenes is from gignomai...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Farouk wrote: "'Only begotten' in John 3.16 refers to the unique relationship between the Father and the Son, and not to the Lord Jesus' physical birth." ....................................................................... “Onlybegotten” (monogenes) Anything that is “begotten” or “born”...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    ........................................... Well, you could actually apply some true research to my carefully researched post concerning John 1:1c (post #2 above). Where have I made an error? How do you refute the actual grammar used by John himself? Where have I misquoted a trinitarian NT...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    ........................................................ Is. 9:6 All Christians, I believe, accept this son as being the Christ. Some will tell you that since the meaning of this symbolic name includes the words "Mighty God, Eternal Father," then Jesus is the Mighty God and the Eternal...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Phil. 2:6 continued In the Septuagint harpagmos (in its forms of harpagma and harpagmata) is used 16 times according to trinitarian Zondervan’s A Concordance of the Septuagint, p. 32, 1979 printing. And in every case its meaning is the taking of something away from someone by force. Here they...
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    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    .......................................... From my personal study of Philippians 2:6-8 ὃς ἐν μορφῇ θεοῦ ὑπάρχων οὐχ ἁρπαγμὸν ἡγήσατο τὸ εἶναι ἴσα θεῷ, 7 ἀλλὰ ἑαυτὸν ἐκένωσεν μορφὴν δούλου λαβών, ἐν ὁμοιώματι ἀνθρώπων γενόμενος· καὶ σχήματι εὑρεθεὶς ὡς ἄνθρωπος…. - Greek text. “Who...