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Correct. It is not the rapture of the Church. It is the second coming and the harvest of the twelve tribes across the earth.....the seed of the woman, Israel. It is the gathering from heaven and earth when Jesus sends His angels to gather the elect. Jesus remains in the clouds and all return to...

Sure. It's a Biblical fact.

That was certainly Paul's desire.

Some of the branches are broken off and can be regrafted.

Not really though I certainly agree that the first believers were of Israel as Christs ministry was to the Jews. But the long story is......... Matthew 23 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy...

There we go. Finally, time to run. I'll give you this, you hung awhile and took your beating. Usually, you run off promptly because you know scripture is going to prove you wrong. You danced around for a while before you finally painted yourself into a corner that you have no answer for. Just...

Agreed, there is only one flock, but there is more than one-fold. Hence, more than one rapture, and the 144,000 first fruits are proof of this.

And yet part of Israel is blinded until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. That will be the first fold.

The 6th and 7th vial happen within the 7th seal. Why do you keep acting like you were not answered. Christs future coming DOES happen IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION. It occurs at the 6th seal based on the signs of the sun, moon and stars. The verses do not say that the wrath of God is over...

Yes, and the part you miss is that there are two folds into one fold John 10 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

I think you'll find the answer here if you understand it. John 10 13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life...

This is from another thread. I about fell out of my chair laughing. We read scripture literally. God tells us about the 7 seals, and 7 trumpets and the 7 vials. This poster had issue that I was keeping the numbers in order as he claimed that the events didn't happen in order. I explained if the...

You seem incapable of comprehending I have already answered. Here it is again. The sun and moon are darkened in the 6th seal which is BEFORE the Day of the Lord which is in the 7th seal. See how numbers work. 6 comes BEFORE 7.

I was in the process of answering your post when you jumped the gun. See below.

Oh, the blindness. The sun does darken, and the moon is as blood at the 6th seal. And the tribulation is over at the 6th seal. The tribulation is when Christians are hunted down and killed for their faith. Jesus returns at the 6th seal for a harvest prior to the wrath of God seen in Matthew 24...

LOL. Yeah. Lets not use the Word of God. Let's use the Word of Davy. And I've shown you from scripture why you are in error. You attempt to change scripture by claiming the 6th seal is the same as the 7th trumpet and 7th vial, while the Word of God says the 7th trumpet and 7th vial are in the...

I just did. Didn't you read my post?

You are categorically compounding the supposed delineation of obtuse narratives resulting in a negative oppression of Dispensationalism.

Yeah right. Those seven trumpets are nothing. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. The fact that you add LOL makes this priceless. To be factual the wrath of God is in Revelation 8-11 and another view in Revelation 16. Woe, woe, woe to the earth God is about to unleash 30 minutes of...

Exactly. Amillennialism was birthed by unbelieving men that didn't believe God would keep His promise to Israel.