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Oh boy. It seems God was very precise in numbering the order of events. If the events weren't to be understood in order, why would He number them? Anyone that thinks that the 7th seal is 30 minutes of silence is very confused. You want to skip all those trumpets and vials because you can't...

I think that you FORGOT that 6 comes before 7. Are you not aware that the sun is darkened and the moon turns to blood at the 6th seal? Are you not aware that the day of the Lord is in the 7th seal? The end of the age is the sixth seal. The sun is darkened and the moon turns to blood before the...

The dead in Christ rise first. The alive remain. When the alive remain unto the coming of the Lord, He will bring the dead in Christ with Him. The alive that remained will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air 1 Thes 4 13 But I would not have you to be...

Yes, the Lord comes in 1 Thes 4 for His bride. The Lord himself comes at the trump of God or voice of God. No denying that. I'm with you so far. The Lord comes for the dead in Christ first. This is the barley harvest. The Lord returns for the alive that remain. This is the wheat harvest. Ok...

Sorry. The second coming is when all eyes will see the coming of the Lord. That does not happen in 1 Thes 4. It happens at the 6th seal.

No. God made rapture at the 6th seal. Here it is. How do you not understand that the signs of the sun, moon and stars tell you that the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 occurs at the 6th seal. I don't know how I can possibly make this any clearer. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of...

Let me ask a couple of questions. When Jesus returns for the Church is it a secret rapture? When Jesus returns for the Jews is it a secret rapture? Or are the kings of the earth and rich men saying to mountains fall on us and hide us from the one that sits on the throne.

This is correct. Rev 14:14 is not 1 Thes 4, when the Lord himself comes for the Church. Revelation 14:14 is the second coming which occurs at the 6th seal. It is the gathering from heaven and earth before the wrath of God.............1 Corinthians 15:52 And yes, there are two raptures according...

No. In Revelation 14:14 which is the second coming, Jesus remains in the clouds. This is the gathering from heaven and earth which occurs at the 6th seal. After this harvest, all return heaven for the marriage supper. While the Church and those that came out of great tribulation are in heaven...

IT IS THE SECOND COMING. Revelation 14:14 occurs at the 6th seal. It is the second coming. Jesus REMAINS IN THE CLOUDS. All eyes see the coming of the Lord in power and glory. But He does come and set His feet on the earth. He comes for a harvest. All return to heaven for the marriage supper...

Yes I've seen that verse. So you think that the 7th seal is silence in heaven. Why do you stop reading after one verse? Those 7 angels are getting ready to sound. Do you stop reading after one verse on all the seals? I doubt it, but maybe you do. How can you possibly think that the wrath of God...

That's just it. It's so simple. The Word says the tribulation is over at the sixth seal. The tribulation is when believers are killed for their faith. Then you say that the 6th seal is the 7th vial. It's totally illogical. The Word says that the tribulation is over at the 6th seal. Then the...

LOL. Maybe one of these days you will come to find out that the Great Tribulation that is brought against believers is not the same thing as the wrath of God that is brought against unbelievers.

The trumpets and vials are the wrath of God. The first 4 seals are the beginning of sorrows in Matthew 24 The 5th seal is the great tribulation The 6th seal is the coming of Jesus for a harvest before the 7th seal is opened. The 7th seal is the wrath of God. The tribulation is over at the 6th...

False and totally illogical and unscriptural The trumpets are within the 7th seal as are the 7 vials. The 7th trumpet cannot be the 6th seal as it is within the 7th seal. No seals are opened as of yet...........but soon.

Paul has a vision of what will happen in the seals. However, when the seals are actually opened, what Paul sees in his vision is going to happen. There is one second coming when all eyes see the coming of the Lord at the 6th seal. The great tribulation is over when the 6th seal is opened. Jesus...

Let me make sure I have your viewpoint straight. When the 1st 4 seals are opened the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse are not released. When the 5th seal is opened, the great tribulation is not on the earth. And when the 6th seal is opened Jesus does not return immediately after the tribulation of...

Let me try. The Gospel of Mark 3:25 25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand. The house of Israel was divided from the house of Judah. Israel lost their land only to return to the lost that was found after losing a battle that should have never been fought. Fighting...

He leaves heaven when the 6th seal is opened. He will send His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth at that time. After the harvest all return to heaven for marriage supper. At the 6th seal, the second coming occurs as all eyes see the coming of the Lord. John had vision of the...

Rise up my love and come away sound like a rapture to me. And you dismiss all the details and timing. You are looking for the man of sin to appear, not the Lord. I missed the scripture that says...................run away and you will find. The doctrine that you adhere to makes no...