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Okay. Those passages are just tossed in there for no reason. Rise up my love, my fair one and come away. They are talking about a stroll in the park. There is a rapture at the 6th seal. And that has nothing whatsoever to do with the 7th trumpet or 7th vial that occurs in the 7th seal. Advanced...

Certainly there is. The kings and priests in heaven in Revelation 5 are the Church Ok. However, I will mention that Keraz is wrong because he doesn't understand that in a lunar eclipse the moon is both as blood and darkened. Additionally, how many times do the stars fall from heaven? The stars...

LOL. Let me help you. The first 4 seals that John has a vision of are the beginning of sorrows in Matthew 24. The fifth seal is the great tribulation of Matthew 24. The 6th seal is the coming of Jesus for a harvest. He opens the seal and heads to earth. He sends His angels to gather the elect...

I challenge you to find a post where I say the rapture of the CHURCH occurs at the 6th seal. The Church will be in heaven before the seals are opened. The six seal is opened IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION...............so how could the Church be raptured pretrib is it is raptured at the 6th...

Great. The stars of heaven are cast to the earth. You have figured something out. But you want to skip the harvest that occurs immediately after the great tribulation. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her...

Yeah great. You think that the tribulation is about to begin when the 6th seal signs of the sun, moon and stars occur. And yet Jesus says that the great tribulation is over at the signs of the sun, moon and stars. As usual, I'll go with Jesus on this. You can mutter around with claims that are...

Clueless. Its apparent that you don't know what the pretrib believers think. I'll help you out. They also think that there are those left behind that go through the wrath of God. They don't understand there are two raptures. So your men's doctrines nonsense holds no water in my pond. The end...

Impossible. There is not a chance in China that the 6th seal and the 7th trumpet and 7th vial are the same thing. You have to open the 7th seal to get to the 7th trumpet and 7th vial so it is impossible for the 6th seal to be the same event. Totally illogical and unscriptural

Where does it say.........He comes to gather HIS CHURCH after the tribulation. The gathering is from heaven and earth. The Church is already in heaven as He comes in an hour that you think not. Those gathered from the earth that get victory over the beast are singing the song of Moses. They...

What Davy says is impossible. How can the 6th seal be the same as the 7th trumpet and 7th vial if you have to open the 7th seal to even get to the 7th trumpet and 7th vial. Completely illogical and unscriptural

I know. Quit drawing incorrect conclusions. I know. Stop it. Stop drawing all these nonsense incorrect conclusions. Well you finally drew a correct conclusion and yet you disagree with it. Do you not understand that the marriage supper takes place in heaven before the white horses event...

This is just something you have made up because you don't know how all the pieces fit in the puzzle. It's easy to put a puzzle to together when you leave half the pieces out.

Poppycock. Strange. The Word says He sends His angels to gather the elect at the 6th seal. Poppycock. John had a vision of what happens when the seals are opened. When the seal is actually opened, the event will happen.

Again we have to go through this. Have you never seen a lunar eclipse. Look on YouTube. The moon turns to blood and then is darkened in a lunar eclipse. The evidence is on YouTube. The 6th seal isn't the Day of the Lord. The seventh seal is the day of wrath. Boy are you going to be in for a...

"A" rapture happens at the 6th seal. I agree there is no secret rapture in these verses. The rapture of the Church happens before any seals are opened. The scripture that you posted is the 6th seal. Is there a rapture at the 6th seal? Yes there is. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the...

There is a rapture at the 6th seal as shown below. Here is the 6th seal being opened. The sun and moon are darkened, and the stars fall from heaven. Revelation 6 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of...

There is a resurrection at the 2nd coming. It's resurrection of the people of Daniel. However, the Church has already been raised before this tribulation. And the 2nd coming occurs at the 6th seal. Daniel 12 1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the...

Absolutely not. There is not one shred of evidence that supports such a claim Your claim is impossible. The 6th seal event is the gathering from heaven and earth. It is a rapture. It is not Armageddon. Neither the 7th trumpet nor the 7th vial can happen until the 7th seal is opened so it...

First off, there will be a rapture of the Church before the great tribulation. That said, I see no reason to move this thread to another forum.

Douggg, Your chart does not line up with scripture. Therefore, it is inaccurate.