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  1. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    1. I prefer the actual Bible. 2. Acts 20 -- details matter. 29 I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; 30 and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them. 31 Therefore be on the...
  2. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    I see a new topic coming up... good luck with that.
  3. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    Well it is true that scripture "Speaks of Christ" But "Judas went out and hanged himself" does not "speak of Christ" And Satan is not "speaking of Christ" in Genesis 3 when saying that God is lying. Every verse - every word... is not a reference to Christ. Not even in the OT. Agreed but He...
  4. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    The Catholic Catechism, the Westminster Confession of Faith, the Baptist Confession of Faith and a great many others freely admit that ALL TEN of the TEN Commandments are included in the moral law of God "written on the heart" under the NEW Covenant. The overly simplistic "here let me make...
  5. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    Well it is true that scripture "Speaks of Christ" But "Judas went out and hanged himself" does not "speak of Christ" And Satan is not "speaking of Christ" in Genesis 3 when saying that God is lying. Every verse - every word... is not a reference to Christ. Not even in the OT. Agreed but He...
  6. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    "The Gospel of Barnabas is a book depicting the life of Jesus, which claims to be by the biblical Barnabas who in this work is one of the twelve apostles. Two manuscripts are known to have existed, both dated to the late 16th or early 17th centuries, with one written in Italian and the other in...
  7. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    The Catholic Catechism, the Westminster Confession of Faith, the Baptist Confession of Faith and a great many others freely admit that ALL TEN of the TEN Commandments are included in the moral law of God "written on the heart" under the NEW Covenant. The overly simplistic "here let me make...
  8. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    So then... for example "Do not take God's name in vain" and "Honor your father and mother" were 'speaking of Jesus'.?? In your statement - you say all of them were "speaking of Jesus" -- quoting yourself of course. It's "ok" if you think that actually... in real life... not taking God's...
  9. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    The Catholic Catechism, the Westminster Confession of Faith, the Baptist Confession of Faith and a great many others freely admit that ALL TEN of the TEN Commandments are included in the moral law of God "written on the heart" under the NEW Covenant. The overly simplistic "here let me make...
  10. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    I find your logic "illusive" -- quite often.
  11. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    The reason we say the ceremonial law is abolished by Jesus is because of Hebrews 10:4-12 telling us that all sacrifices and offerings ended at the cross "He takes away the first to establish the second". But the weekly Sabbath given in Genesis 2:1-3 was not based on animal sacrifice or offering...
  12. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    The Catholic Catechism, the Westminster Confession of Faith, the Baptist Confession of Faith and a great many others freely admit that ALL TEN of the TEN Commandments are included in the moral law of God "written on the heart" under the NEW Covenant. The overly simplistic "here let me make...
  13. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    Each time you "quote you" for that doctrine - you remind us all that it is not in the Bible. No such thing as "ignore the command - Do not take God's name in vain - for that was old covenant" No such thing as "ignore the command to keep God's Sabbath holy -- for that was old covenant" All...
  14. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    That is true. The Catholic Catechism, the Westminster Confession of Faith, the Baptist Confession of Faith and a great many others freely admit that ALL TEN of the TEN Commandments are included in the moral law of God "written on the heart" under the NEW Covenant. The overly simplistic "here...
  15. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    Amen! And Jesus repeatedly states that He only speaks the Commands of God not "His own". John 14 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works. 11 Believe Me...
  16. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    interesting "spin". But sadly for that idea - it is "still a sin" to take God's name in vain.
  17. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    That's because Sabbath keeping Christians are big on the "sola scriptura" thing and so far not one person has given a single text says "week-day-1 is the Lord's Day". as we all know by now. True - but when did the Lord's Day change from the 7th day to "week day 1"?? Certainly not in the Bible...
  18. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    false accusation... again?
  19. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    How many of the Ten Commandments would you personally prefer to "edit out"? Mark 7:6-13 - how many does Christ claim in Mark 7 that are "up for grabs" as though "any ol tradition will do" for deleting one? =========================== Christ and Paul both argue for the TEN -- Tradition of man...
  20. BobRyan

    Jesus and Commands

    false accusation ... again?