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  1. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    Thank you for posting that.
  2. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    Sola Scriptura - Acts 17:11 "they studied the scriptures daily to SEE IF those things spoken to them by the Apostle Paul - WERE SO".. End of story. Gal 1:6-9 "though WE (apostles) or an angel from heaven should come to you preaching a different gospel - let him be accursed"
  3. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    We learn something new every day
  4. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    And it is the Jesuits themselves that are promoting it. Internet History Sourcebooks Project CANON 3 Text. We excommunicate and anathematize every heresy that raises against the holy, orthodox and Catholic faith which we have above explained; condemning all heretics under whatever names they...
  5. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    And it is the Jesuits themselves that are promoting it. Internet History Sourcebooks Project CANON 3 Text. We excommunicate and anathematize every heresy that raises against the holy, orthodox and Catholic faith which we have above explained; condemning all heretics under whatever names...
  6. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    Lateran IV calls for the "extermination of heretics" -- it is a supposedly infallible ecumenical council. Fordham - a Jesuit web site and university. FORDHAM – (Jesuit) The Fourth Lateran Council, the council that dogmatized transubstantiation, offered indulgences to those who would...
  7. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    hmmm.. or maybe he should just listen to whatever his church magisterium tells him to think -- which is still going to result in non-Catholic. I don't see how this solves the issue.
  8. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    No worries - I myself am far from being Calvinist (I sometimes refer to myself as 2.5 Calvinist or is it 1.5? I keep forgetting where I fall in that lineup)
  9. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    Lateran IV calls for the "extermination of heretics" -- it is a supposedly infallible ecumenical council. But no matter we can just all agree they were in gross error - right? let bygones be bygones. Some folks would like to put a happy face on "exterminate" to simply mean "steal all their...
  10. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    You still did not answer the question about which part of Calvinism you differ with. Which of the 5 in this case.
  11. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    1 Cor 3 burning of the works (the teaching) of the evangelist that builds with hay, wood, stubble, straw -- Your model falls far short of "implicit scriptural teaching" it is nothing more than wild-extrem-inference trying to eisegete mythology into the text that does not even remotely allow...
  12. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    Certainly not - but the text does not say "on the day they are judged they are purified with fire" - and we all know it. No .. it does not. Read your Bible. Hebrews 9 says that -- and it does not say "after this comes the judgment where they are purified by fire" which is the salient point in...
  13. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    No it does not - you simply inject extreme inference each time you "need it". But the text with "the day" does not say "in the day the person is burned with fire" -- another one of the salient points in your own argument MISSING from the text. And then you pretend that "we are not supposed to...
  14. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    And all you have to do is show the text of 1Cor 3 where it says they are dead to make you case. And of course you cannot do that. You have inserted the statement you "need" to see in 1 Cor 3. There is no "their bodies died" in 1 Cor 3. There is no "the person is purified by fire while dead or...
  15. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    BobRyan said: ↑ None of them mention the death of the person or someone getting forgiveness after they die. Details matter. While it is true that toss the person into the torturer's prison - the lake of fire, the wages of sin, the judgment that casts into fiery hell -- occurs in after the...
  16. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    None of them mention the death of the person or someone getting forgiveness after they die. Details matter. While it is true that toss the person into the torturer's prison - the lake of fire, the wages of sin, the judgment that casts into fiery hell -- occurs in after the "first death" and...
  17. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    Your model falls far short of "implicit scriptural teaching" it is nothing more than wild-extrem-inference trying to eisegete mythology into the text that does not even remotely allow for your agenda-driven-inserts. Sadly your insistence on not actually reading the chapter -- leaves your...
  18. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    1 Cor 3 His WORK burned - but HE is never said to be burned. His WORK burned - but HE is not said to be DEAD while it happens READ your Bible, son . . . More examples of what we do NOT find in 1 Cor 3 - The punishments of sin 1472 To understand this doctrine and practice of the Church, it is...
  19. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    1 Cor 3 His WORK burned - but HE is never said to be burned. His WORK burned - but HE is not said to be DEAD while it happens READ your Bible, son . . . More examples of what we do NOT find in 1 Cor 3 - The punishments of sin 1472 To understand this doctrine and practice of the Church, it is...
  20. BobRyan

    Books Outside the Bible

    Heb 11 35 Women received back their dead by resurrection; and others were tortured not accepting their release, so that they might obtain a better resurrection; The mother receives back her son from the dead in the case of Elisha who brought her son back to life in 2 Kings 4. Has nothing to do...