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Robert, it seems the Mods had no choice. This subject was getting out of control. All are not as respectful as you! I wish we all were!

I think @Heart2Soul has a point. There are some here who seem to thrive on "raging debates." They go out of their way to promote it. It's just one thread after another promoting those debates, in a sort of provoking manner.

One question is more desirable than five. If you have "a question" I will be happy to enlighten.

LOL, is there anything else you would like to ask? I don't want you to leave anything out.

Just trying to understand what you believe about salvation.

Not trying to be rude, just being honest. Your understanding of Scripture is strange to many of us. I still don't know what constitutes salvation in your understanding. It seems you see it as a process. Is that correct or please explain.

There are several reasons the Independents left the Convention. We basically feel that the Southern Baptists have departed from the fundamentalism of Scripture.

No, it's not backed by Scripture. I have been discussing some of that with one of your own.

Yes, you are definitely a JW. The sealing of the Holy Spirit takes place with whosoever calls on the name of the Lord. Rom. 10:13 Yes we know that the JW's are the supreme election, They are special.

OK, as I said, I'm an Independent Baptist, what is your denomination? Need to know who I'm speaking with.

It's not just the Trinity that being pushed here by the JW's, it's a whole different belief system than that of a Christian. The problem is that this handful pushing this belief are going under the name of Christian!

Answer me this, Jane, is it the intensions of the JW's here to take over this website?

This is philosophy, not Christian faith! None of this is Biblical, Peterlag. Are you a JW?

This is what I'm talking about! Denial of basic biblical principles, and on a Christian Forum! Peterlag, are you a JW?

So you're going to ignore my question. What denomination are you, are you JW? If you can't tell me as I told you, then we have nothing to talk about.

Didn't Paul say that we were sealed by the Holy Spirit after we believe, which is the down payment on our inheritance? Eph. 1:13-14 How is it that you say you don't have the Holy Spirit if you are a believer? Something is wrong with this, Peterlag!

If salvation comes from the heart through confession of faith in Christ, then you know you are saved, right? And you also know that you have the indwelling Holy Spirit as Paul said in Eph. 1:13, right?

I'm an Independent Baptist. So I'll know who I'm talking to, what is your denomination?

How does one go about getting that Spirit? Please use the Scripture to back up your response, Peterlag.

Since we are having difficulties with a certain faith that most don't consider to be Christians, why doesn't that faith request a forum for themselves? it seems to me the same arguments arise time and time again from a handful here who deny the foundations in which Christianity is founded. Have...