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  1. keras

    Eschatologioal Footing

    If you really did know Bible prophecy, then you would look forward to the time of fulfilment of God's plan to have a people in His Land, true believers, who would be His witnesses and a light to the nations. THAT is our promise and our destiny. Isaiah 49:8. 2 Peter 3:13
  2. keras

    The Identity of the Antichrist, the Two Beasts of Revelation, and the Whore of Babylon

    cga, your post above promotes a preterist view of prophecy. ​Most scholars agree that a lot of prophecy has a partial near fulfilment and a later and complete fulfilment. For example; Titus didn't actually sit in the Temple and declare himself to be god. And the ten people groups after the...
  3. keras

    Heaven is Not Where Those Who Are Saved Go

    Wow, I am impressed with your posts, cga and dcopymope. You both have a good grip on what the Bible actually tells us, as against the many who have chosen to believe the easy and escapist way out of forthcoming troubles. Living in a regenerated holy Land, as all true Christians will do soon...
  4. keras

    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    Stranger, I find this conversation interesting, as what you say shows me how far those who have believed a lie, [the rapture] will go to and to make further lies and added false beliefs. In Galatians 1:2, Paul is talking to the church members there. The only mention of Jews in that book, is...
  5. keras

    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    In Galatians 6:16, the Greek word 'kai' is there. So it says:.... peace and mercy be upon them, [kai] the Israel of God. ​kai; Strongs G2532, is used as a connective word; could be - and, also, both, but, even, for, if, or, so, that, then, therefore, when, yet. So the context dictates the...
  6. keras

    Eschatologioal Footing

    Why should you even bother with prophecy, if you're so sure you will be in heaven.? Do you not realize what an incredibly pretentious and self promoting idea that is? Jesus was right when He said: ....the humble will inherit the earth. Matthew 5:5 That is where I expect to be and as the Lord...
  7. keras

    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    Yes, there is a 'harpazo', a meeting with Christ in the air, when He Returns. This in no way means, or even hints a going to live in heaven. Re: Rev 7, John is in heaven, viewing earthly scenes. Nothing of what he sees happens in heaven. Rev 14:3 plainly says the Throne is on Mt Zion, in...
  8. keras

    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    I showed you; the KJV adds 'and'. God can do anything He chooses. He could give you understanding of His plans, but because you have confused yourself, He has closed your eyes and sealed the Book. Isaiah 29:9-12 Revelation 7:1-3 sets an earthly scene for the selection of the 144,000, and...
  9. keras

    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    Quite right, the Jewish State of Israel, is very far from being the Body of Christ, the true Church. Which is made up from every individual believer from every race and language. The Jews have usurped the name of Israel and confusion has resulted, but they are mostly of the synagogue of Satan...
  10. keras

    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    Because scripture does not actually teach a rapture removal to heaven, nowhere is that stated and it is only by construing that theory from verses like 'we are not appointed to wrath', and wishful thinking, that a rapture is made up. Many prophesies say God will protect us from His wrath, never...
  11. keras

    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    Careful study of Scripture shows that the Lord is a God of order and in His plan for the redemption of His creation, He chose the Israelite peoples. At this stage of history, only He knows exactly who they are. Amos 9:9 The Lord made unconditional promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, that their...
  12. keras

    Eschatologioal Footing

    A rapture removal to heaven is NOT clear. Why do you believe it? As a person who has intensively studied the Bible for many years and written 4 books on the subject of the end times, your comment about me is invalid and only made because I challenge your beliefs. Saying the Israel turns back to...
  13. keras

    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    That is because you are locked into the rapture theory, which must have Two People, Two Promises to work. Read carefully Galatians 6:14-16. WE are the Israel of God. We are told that as Christian believers, our citizenship is kept in heaven. That is: our names are written in the Book of...
  14. keras

    Eschatologioal Footing

    Why hold to something that is not clearly stated in the Bible? Doesn't the fact that a rapture to heaven, has to be construed out many verses, mostly ones that never mention heaven, make such an idea suspect? You statement above is very confused. The true Church, every individual who believes...
  15. keras

    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    You fail to read and understand the great message of the New Testament. The Church IS the new Israel. WE ARE the recipients of the promises of God to his People, the Israel of God. Galatians 6:16. Insisting on a separation between true, righteous Israel and the Christians is wrong. God has no...
  16. keras

    Eschatologioal Footing

    The Lord's Day of vengeance and wrath, the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, is the next prophesied event to happen. It is plain that the first five Seals are open already. If Jesus did intend to take His people away from it, He surely would have said so, then or later, but He didn't. We will pass...
  17. keras

    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    Just read Ezekiel 34:11-15 and see exactly what God does intend for His people. Israel isn't mentioned in this passage so you won't be confused by thinking 'My sheep' applies to the Jews. ​Another prophecy is Isaiah 35:1-10 all about how God will ransom His people, who will enter into Zion with...
  18. keras

    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    Absolutely nothing in scripture says God will take His people to heaven. That is proof it won't happen. You are resorting to deviousness, next step is abuse and denigration, don't go that way, its sinful to judge a fellow Christian. James 4:11-12
  19. keras

    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    Yes, the souls of those who have died in the Lord are kept in heaven, not in a conscious state, awaiting the GWT judgement. The martyrs souls are kept under the Altar and they are allowed to speak out, Rev 6:10 and at Jesus' Return, they receive the first resurrection. Rev 20:4 You are right...
  20. keras

    Rapture, Prophecy, Church, and the Nation of Israel- Last Generation

    Obviously you are unable to prove your belief and have to resort to asking me to prove that a rapture won't happen. Which I can easily do. On the Lord's Day of wrath, the next prophesied event, these scriptures prove that the Lord will protect His people, not remove them. Protection for His...