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If you read the whole chpater of romans 11, Paul is speaking to gentile christians. He is explaining why they have been accepted into Gods kingdom and why some Isrealites have not. He explains that because some of the jews were unfaithful, God had cast them off and this action has made it...

sure thing, im always up for an open discussion :) let me know what forum you put it in.

i personally believe that natural Israel today are viewed like every other person on earth... they individually have the opportunity to come to God through Christ just like all of us do. The days of partiality are over. God has turned his attention to 'people' from all nations. We are...

cheers for that, that is an interesting subject. God did use things as symbols of something spiritual.. Paul said the physical things of the temple and priesthood arrangement were a physical representation of the things in the heavens. with regard to natural isreal today, being born a jew...

yep, thats it.. Isaacs birth was not in the manner of flesh, it was in the manner of spirit because he came as a promise by God that the barren woman would conceive. For not all who [spring] from Israel are really “Israel.” 7 Neither because they are Abraham’s seed are they all children, but...

thank you for the kind words. I only understand Gods word how I have been taught it, so i thank my bible teachers for their wisdom and spiritual knowledge. What scriptures do you use for the breastplate and its stones?

I'm sorry, i think I got you mixed up with the OP and Veteren who both seem to think that the 144,000 are natural isreal...jews I agree with you that the 144,000 will be chosen from all nations of people...except that women are also among them because they too were present at Pentecost when...

what you are really witnessing are the fulfillment of Pauls words about what life will be like during the 'last days' or as Daniel calls them 'the time of the end' 2Timothy 3:1 But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of...

...or why manassah is included? I dont think the answer is relevant in the book of Revelation. It should be taken as evidence that the 144.000 are not literal isrealites from each of the tribes We should be able to deduct that Revelation 7 is not speaking about natural isreal but rather a...

I dont think Vengle has noticed that the 12 tribes listed in Revelation 7 do not correspond with fleshly isreal. In Ge 49:2-28 the 12 sons of Jacob are listed as: Reuben Simeon, Levi, Judah, Zbeulun, Issachar, Dan, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Joseph, Benjamin But in Revelation 7, they are listed...

no way its not something christians should be involved in if they dont want to mix their christianity with satanic influcences. 2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with...

ooops scrap that.... i see you are referring to Acts 16 as the thread title states! :lol:

i dont see anywhere in that account that Timothy was circumsized. I think you've read this incorrectly and misunderstood. Paul is saying that circumcision DOES NOT BENEFIT YOU... he did not tell timothy to go and get circumsized.

i think the statement contradicts Gods word in many ways God teaches us through personal failure? No, rather the scripture says that God teaches us to 'benefit ourselves' Isaiah 48:17. God is Wisdom...how can he teach us through error? If God teaches us anything, it certainly isnt 'error'...

to me the obvious answer is that the mosaic law (old covenant) required 'works', whereas the new covenant requires 'faith' The purpose of the mosaic law was different too. Paul said that it was a 'tutor leading to christ' ...in other words, the purpose of the mosaic law was to teach the...

but according to Paul, God was still in his rest Hebrews 4:6-7 Gods rest day was still in progress in the first century, Christians were invited to enter into it.... so he must still be resting. So I think the 'rest' has to do with 'creative' works. It was after God created Eve that he...

anything that takes that much explaining cannot be simple :D simple trinity = oxy moron

yes thats true they dont add anything to our worship because our worship must be in 'spirit' because God is a spirit.

Jesus said we must worship the Father in 'spirit and truth' If we think about what it means to worship God in 'spirit' we would have to acknowledge the fact that the 'spirit' is an invisible force. So even the christian images such as pictures of Jesus, or crosses around the neck, or little...

Galatians is speaking about Mosaic Law. Paul is telling them that the works of that Mosaic law cannot save them because they are saved by their faith. So you have to be clear on the type of work being discussed. There are 'Works of Law'. - these are mosaic law works such as festivals...