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  1. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    No problem my friend. There are many who don't agree with me. I suspect the same holds for you. We're still members of the one body of Christ. All differences will be set aside when Jesus comes back. I have no doubt we'll all find we were wrong about one thing or another. After all, we all see...
  2. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Again, I'll point out the problem of reading someone else's mail and applying it to themselves. Hebrews 1:1 is clear that it was meant for the Jews. Now remember, God, also speaking to the Jews, said He'd make a New Covenant with them in Jeremiah 31:31. So we're not dealing with the church here...
  3. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    There is something often overlooked when formulating doctrine. It's usually assumed that the things Jesus said in the Gospels have a direct connection and application to the Christian church. But is that really the case? Let the scriptures speak for themselves: Matt 15:24, But he answered and...
  4. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    True. But in the end, they will be saved. Rom 11:26, And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: The whole 11th chapter is well worth a careful study. Verse 25 of that chapter tells exactly when...
  5. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Where do you see anything about a New Covenant anywhere in Acts? As far as Matthew goes, Jesus just said it was the cup of the New Covenant. Which New Covenant? Well, there are very few verses that actually talk about a New Covenant. There are 4 to be precise and all of them are with the Jews...
  6. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Not sure why all the question marks. I didn't say anything that complicated. But if you didn't get it, no problem. I'll try to elaborate just a bit. Galatians 3:28 says in the most simple terms possible that Christians are neither Jew nor Gentile. Here's another verse that says the same thing...
  7. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Well the new covenant is the one in Jeremiah 31:31 which was made with Israel and Judah. Read the whole chapter and you should see none of it has happened to date. You may also notice that it says nothing about the blood of Christ. That's something else altogether different. We ought not to read...
  8. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    What truth from Jeremiah am I missing? What revelation do get from reading it? Did God reveal to you that Jeremiah 31:31 was talking about the church instead of Israel and Judah? You might want to check out how many times the word "knowledge" is used in the Bible. I think you'd see that it's a...
  9. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Paul, though born a Jew, became a Christian. Gal 3:27-28, 27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Paul was no longer under the old covenant...
  10. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    I just reread Acts 2 to make sure there was nothing there about a New Covenant. I still didn't see it. So taking the text for what it says, nobody experienced a New Covenant. Read all of Jeremiah 31 where it talks about the New Covenant with Israel and with Judah. It's pretty obvious none of...
  11. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Yes it is. And at some point God will make a New Covenant with Israel and with Judah, as per Jer 31:31. I wouldn't add anything to such a simple declaration.
  12. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    I never saw anything about spiritual jurisprudence regarding Wills and Testaments in the scriptures. Notice to whom Hebrews is written: Heb 1:1, On many past occasions and in many different ways, God spoke to our fathers through the prophets. The fathers are Jews and God never spoke through...
  13. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Good points. I do understand all of that. Thanks for bringing them up. Here's a verse to ponder: Jer 31:31, Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. We tend to think that God made His new covenant...
  14. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    In addition to the two verses you quoted, there are no less 32 times the words "kingdom of heaven" are used. First of all, one thing being "of" another thing, doesn't necessarily mean that the one thing is "in" the other thing. In other words, the kingdom is "of" heaven, but that is not that...
  15. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    OMG! How you could come to such a conclusion after reading the post is stunning. OK, now I'm thinking you do understand what I said. Excellent! Well we can end it, but I wouldn't say it was all for nothing. Isn't there something about iron sharpening iron in the scriptures? I know you made me...
  16. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    I didn't see it, but there I shall go right now! One needs a spreadsheet to keep track of all of this. tsml
  17. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    What the prophets of old actually understood was that Jesus would come as a lamb led to slaughter and then as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. 1 Pet 1:11, Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of...
  18. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Yes, Paul was talking to carnal Christians who had many divisions within their church. Some time ago, I brought up the mystery and you said you had no idea why I brought it up. Well, 1 Cor 2 may shed some light on that. Paul was saying that because of their carnality, because of their...
  19. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    How would you feel if someone accused you of taking every single verse in the Bible allegorically? I suspect you would feel somewhat annoyed. So, how do you think someone else might feel after being accuse of taking every single verse literally? Probably somewhat annoyed. Not sure if annoyed...