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  1. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    No, neither Paul, nor Matthew, nor Peter were eisegetes. Eisegesis is reading one's own preconceived ideas into the scriptures. Where do you see Peter, Mathew or Peter reading their own ideas into the scriptures? They wrote what God told them to write. We ought to read the scriptures in the...
  2. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Reread those verses. They do not say Paul understood the mystery from the OT. They in fact say that it was hidden in the OT and that Paul learned it by revelation of holy spirit. There is nothing in Paul's letters that show that he learned about this mystery in the OT. Why? Because, as...
  3. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    How do you understand: Eph 3:3-6, 3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed...
  4. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Yes. There are some things in the scriptures we should take as an allegory. In fact Paul said he himself used an allegory in Galatians 4:24. An allegory is a legitimate tool of grammar. It is a figure of speech which is used to emphasize something. They are to be used and understood in a precise...
  5. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    I understand at least part of amillenial doctrine to say that the 1,000 year reign is not literal. If I'm wrong abut that, could you tell me what you think it means. But if I do understand the doctrine correctly, where does it say that the 1,000 years mentioned in Revelation are anything other...
  6. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Seems simple enough to me! Why complicate things by looking for some hidden or secret meaning to plain language? I guess it makes some feel special, like the Gnostics who felt they were initiated into some higher knowledge, and thus set apart from the simpletons. I've been accused of being...
  7. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    I think you misunderstood. I wasn't saying scholars hold either a allegorical or a literal approach. I was saying that scholars say that the question of amillenialism vs premillenialism comes down to which method one uses. The telling of the fulfillment of prophecy has nothing to do with...
  8. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    But why are the poor getting punished? I see the scriptures as pretty clear that the poor are the very ones who Jesus will rescue.
  9. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    The word "reign" is the Greek word G936 βασιλεύω basileuo. While used four times in Revelation, it is not used in any of the verses you mentioned. I think you might want to consider how the following verses fit into the idea that Jesus is currently reigning on the earth: 2 Cor 4:4, In whom...
  10. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    An often overlooked aspect of amillenial vs premillenial is the method of interpretation. It is generally agreed among scholars that those who hold to the amillenial view employ the allegorical method of interpretation of scripture whereas the premillenial view is based on a literal...
  11. Rich R

    A God of Hate

    Setting tradition aside, it is easy enough to see that the Bible explicitly calls Jesus a man no less than 6 times. Not once is he actually called Yahweh. There are at least a dozen places where it says Jesus has a God and a father. Now that makes perfect sense if we see him as the son of God...
  12. Rich R

    A God of Hate

    You'd have to think like the people of 3,000 years ago in a culture vastly different like our modern Western culture to understand what was going on. Suffice it to say, they understood gods and their role in the world in a radically different way than we do. It would take an emptying of previous...
  13. Rich R

    Resetting Creation Through the Flood

    There are many questions people ask about the Genesis flood. Was it universal or local? Where did the water go after the flood? How could all the animals fit on the ark along with all the food they would need? How did Noah get panda bears from China and giraffes from Africa? Why didn’t the lions...
  14. Rich R

    Who is God's God?

    OK. All those verses say Jesus is God. I'm not arguing that point. But none of those verses explain who the God and Father of God is. There's no game going on here. I think it's valid question. Sorry, but I can't just ignore the many verses that say Jesus has a God and a Father. I just want to...
  15. Rich R

    Who is God's God?

    Amen to that! So long as we confess Jesus as our Lord and believe God raised him from the dead, we are saved. Rom 10:9-10, 9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one...
  16. Rich R

    Who is God's God?

    Where have I denied the Deity of Christ or the trinity? My goal was to see if anyone knows who the God and Father of God is. I trust you read the OP. If not, give it a look.
  17. Rich R

    Who is God's God?

    There is another option. Maybe Jesus didn't call himself God because he didn't think he was God? If that is the case, then the verses I quoted in the OP would present no difficulties. We wouldn't have to explain who the God and Father of God is. I think a Father, God in this case, and His son...
  18. Rich R

    Who is God's God?

    The scripture I quoted in the OP are not a pipe dream. They are the words of God and the say with no ambiguity whatsoever that Jesus has a God and a Father. You yourself say Jesus is God. That being the case, then clearly God has a God and a Father. I'm just wondering who that might be.
  19. Rich R

    Who is God's God?

    Very true. Good verses, but they don't say who God's God and Father is which is the subject of the OP.
  20. Rich R

    Who is God's God?

    I am quite familiar with the history of Judaism and Christianity, enough to see that John's gospel, far from incorporating Gnosticism, was in fact a polemic against it. I think virtually all scholars agree that Jews considered the "word" and "wisdom" of the OT to be personifications of the one...