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If you make water baptism a requirement for salvation, this is your statement of faith. I am saved by faith in Jesus Christ, in His death, burial, and resurrection + the person who will water baptize me. You can't be saved without relying on a person for your salvation through water baptism...

No afraid not! Paul is telling them that Israel will be saved by the promise, not of the flesh. They of the flesh are not the children of promise. The promise is concerning the seed. So let me explain this. God promised Abraham and Sarah a child would be born who would receive the promise made...

The "last trump" of Revelation is not the "trump" that Paul is speaking of in 1 Thes. 4. If you study the 2 trumps, the Shofar trump of the horn of an animal, and the Silver horns that God told Moses to make for Israel, you will see, (if you follow the uses of these horns in the OT) that there...

I agree that Paul tells us that all of Israel will be saved, just as sure as God promised it. But not here in Rom. 9:6-8. This is definitely showing why they are not yet saved. He plainly shows us here the reason they are all not saved, but yet he reveals that some are. "but the children of...

I learned this in a classroom setting at a University, where there was a scheduled time for questions and answers. It took the entire 4 years to place this all together with the Old and New Testaments, where it could be understood. I have come to the conclusion that it is impossible to teach...

It literally took me years to take hold of what I'm want to explain here. I know from experience that the question and answer game is not going to answer anything! It just creates more argument. This is complicated, there is a slew of Scripture reference involved, and you cannot understand it...

So I take from this post that you are no longer interested in our original conversation of the how the resurrections work? It seems that you are claiming if I do that, I'm not giving the truth of God's Word. So there is no need for me to go any further with this!

I can keep answering these questions, but we are just going around in circles. I'm not complaining, but I want you to see the frustration involved in this. Last night I was about to cover the resurrections for us to see how this works, then comes a flood of questions and I could never get to...

That is incorrect Truth! The first and second resurrections are separated by 1000 years. The first resurrection is not recorded in the book of Revelation, the reason is that it has already taken place before the seals are taken out of the right hand of the One who sits on the Throne, by the...

Those under the alter in Rev. 6:9-11 have been slain. The first resurrection has already taken place, glorified bodies have already been given. Vs. 9 says "souls" but this is just an identification, not their state of being. They have received the glorified body. But they must wait until the...

Always listening, that is a good source of learning!

Good morning, Truth! I see we agree on something here. But I don't believe it will last very long, lol.

Hello, Marilyn! Well I certainly can't prove you are incorrect about that. Nothing wrong with you believing it's Moses. All that I have, and what I base my opinion by, is that Moses has already died. That would mean that Moses comes back to earth and witnesses for the Lord and will die again. I...

Well when we know something had to happen and no Scripture to tell us, all that's left is assumption. They would have had to receive a glorified body, they entered into heaven both body and soul. I don't see any other way.

That's true! We don't know about the second death of Lazarus. But we do know he was dead because Mary said that by now his body was stinking. We also know that he was raised from the dead by Christ. So that is a good point, and we don't know. It is possible that he died the second death, but...

I can't believe that, Moses has already died once. He was buried by God. I believe it to be Elijah and Enoch.

Ok, we are in the pre-mil view now, the rapture that many deny. I will put that together in my next post. Forgetting for now the phases of the first resurrection, let's make it simple by just the first resurrection (everyone from the beginning of time to this point of the first resurrection)...

Aren't they the witnesses? If they are, then no one escapes death before the return of Christ.

I know, I'm going to hell because I'm not a legalist as the Catholics. My faith is totally in the finished work of Christ + nothing, so that disqualifies me.

It is true that the Scripture does not record their death, but it is very unlikely they were called up without dying. The Scripture says that it is appointed once for man to die. They would be the only ones to escape this appointed death before the return of Christ, where there will be some who...