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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    This is the strawman. It doesn't exist. Not in the way you imagine it. God could not be angry at people and kill all but one family if the rest could not be saved because he didn't " elect" them.
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    They are the "whosoever will" in John 3:16
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    So, you are just making this stuff up? Because Jesus was amazed at a women's faith. How could he be amazed at what he had given her? When the disciples as for an increase in faith, Jesus threw the ball back in their court: 5 The apostles said to the Lord, “Increase our faith!” 6 And the Lord...
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    Calvinism vs. Arminianism

    Sigh. I see you still don't get it. “We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one.” We are of God, not of the world, but we live IN the world, which is under the sway of evil. I don't see what is so hard to grasp, here. Yes, we lie in evil! I wish to...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    For more than one purpose. To judge the Egyptians, to display his power and to preserve his people so he could bring the messiah through their linage.
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    If he left them no other option, you can't escape the fact that he irresistibly caused them to be unable to follow him.
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    No you're throwing out rabbit trails, let's stick to the subject.
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    So God rejects himself? That's what you are saying. God did everything, that means the person was just a pawn.
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    He chooses those who believe on his name to be sons of God. "Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God--" They are reborn, which is all his doing, but only if they receive him And they are chosen by his foreknowledge of...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    So what was his purpose? ultimately to bring the gospel to All Nations through the Israelites.. that's why Paul is mentioning Pharaoh in the first place, because it relates to that plan. But, that doesn't mean God can't kill two birds with one stone. He also judged the Egyptians for thier...
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    Who founded your church?

    I think the men of the church were just men. As prone to error as any man. Which makes my interpretation, which is shared by many learned men in churches also, as likely as theirs. And I've read enough of the really old discussions on theology from like the 1400s to know that the men in the...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Oh? Is that why scripture encourages people to repent and why God laments when his people disobey? Is God lamenting what he irresistibly caused to happen? " I regret that I made these people who I irresistibly caused to not follow me because I only chose Noah and his family for salvation, and...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Red herrings. Or as I like to call them: " there goes a squirrel!" When someone changes to other subjects it's usually because they don't want to admit they are wrong.
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Sure. But why some are saved isn't among the hidden things. It's spelled out all through the Bible.
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    So God told the ninevites to repent even though they couldn't? But they, in fact, did repent.
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    He showed mercy on Adam and Eve for a reason also. Because he had a plan to save mankind and they were part of the plan. How is it unconditional when the unsaved only get nice sunsets and good food but we get eternal joy?
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Nothing to do with judgement? What were the plagues? They were judgement on egypt for following false gods. In fact, each plague shows God's power over one of their supposed god's. God used pharaoh to show his power as a way to evangelize the Egyptians, that is showing them who was the true God.