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Thank you @amadeus You remind me of when I realized how flawed and divided our Founding Fathers were, completely conflicted and even contradicted themselves and each other, yet leaders came together, prayed to God, and still produced agreed words and wisdom that we use to teach universal...

I don't know why you have to make this either or. In some contexts God is Love. In some instances God manifests to people as Truth or as Wisdom. God as Life or Nature. God as Creator or Creation, some people understand God to mean the Universe. God as Heavenly Father makes sense to some but not...

1. I follow you when you said your biggest connection was putting God first. Either putting no other gods before God. Or loving God with all our heart mind and soul. From what I gather and read in your posts you focus on God's truth and will as being supreme, above all else. 2. I do not yet...

@Wrangler One of the more interesting and consistent Trinity patterns I found was in Confucionism. This system had both a three part Trinity AND three guiding principles that corresponded to the three. Jen Yi and Li (Highest Benevolence or the collective/absolute/ultimate level, The highest...

The Muslims teach 99 names of God. Justice is one. What I find helpful is to figure out with each person what is their 3 part system of what God/Christ Jesus/Holy Spirit represent to them. Any of the 99 or more names of God can end up being their key focus. So it changes the angle or approach...

I understand you use this anti-trinity approach to address proponents. But obviously this method is not how you came to understand God and Jesus, since clearly you see these differently from the Trinity approach. How were you first shown, introduced or invited to receive your understanding of...

If you and I receive each other equally, we can learn how to communicate better across the two systems. That effort and process to reach common understanding is never futile. If we get stuck like you do with others, where you only want to prove one system right and the other wrong, then other...

There are more than one denomination of Jewish people receiving Jesus. Some of these do not even recognize each other but teach or practice differently! Some people do or do not recognize * Buddhists who receive Jesus and still teaching/practicing Buddhism but in a different spirit or context...

Dear @amadeus Where we all AGREE IN CHRIST on God's UNIVERSAL TRUTH that is the narrow gate of righteousness. Where I find all people even JW agree: John 10:29-30 is true, where both statements are made in the same context that the Father is greater than all and the Son and the Father are one...

I like both @BobVance and @Wrangler 's posts. @Wrangler it is equally futile to impose "Unitarian-only" positions and arguments on people who either see God in terms of the Three being one, or people like me who tolerate and include BOTH ways and other variations of these ways. I find that...

The Golden Cow for the JW: they require their ELDERS to change Organization policy and teaching before they can amend how they teach anything, whether the Bible or medical policies they approve. For Spiritual Healing to be approved, this would need to be proven MEDICALLY so it becomes...

He did not insist on Jehovah or preach that God or Lord is a title. The JW also call the Holy Spirit God's Active Force, and interpret Michael to be Jesus.

Dear @Wrangler All people are made in the image of God as Body Mind and Soul. It is our understanding of God that evolves. The Jewish people who receive Jesus see this as Fulfilling the Jewish laws and teachings. Eventually all laws and lineages will see and receive Jesus as fulfilling and...

Dear @cyann I have a close friend who also comes from.a Muslim background and has Muslim parents. He used Sura 109 to explain that they could have different beliefs and still be at peace. At first his parents worried they would go to hell if they didn't teach their children Islam. In truth...

C. How the Church body operates 1. I see Life as like an Orchestra, with diverse sections playing different instruments in different keys. Not all of us play the same sheet music, but they fit together in a score that creates a complete Symphony when a parts are played correctly. In tune, in...

B. The symbol of Jesus in the Center of the Cross. @Wrangler this is how a Senior Pastor explained the difference between man's relation with God, and man's relations between Neighbors, although Christ Jesus is in the middle of both relations. 1. The Vertical bar of the Cross represents God's...

This thread is for me and @Wrangler to explore areas we might view things in common, or to discuss where and why we differ in approach to God and Jesus. Anyone else, you are welcome to respond if @Wrangler and I have issues understanding or explaining between us. But please let @Wrangler...

Dear @Wrangler The relationship between 13 to 50 states to the Union is more like the relationship between: * Denominations of Christianity all under ONE Faith in God through Christ * Different religious tribes (Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu etc) all under God's laws as Universal...

Dear @Wrangler You appear to be referring to the Secular Gentile path of Natural Laws, where you see Jesus as representing more what we as God's children are supposed to do. This is a distinct fold of the one flock. The other fold are the Believers who believe Jesus embodies and fulfills...

Dear @Wrangler 1. Yes it is by definitions. The way TOPOLOGY defines circles, squares, triangles, rectangles these are CLOSED LOOPS. So for that FIELD of math relations, as long as a figure is a CLOSED LOOP they are "Topologically" the same type of shape. 2. As for 1 + 1 + 1 = 3 There are...