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You are. You are talking with people who are talking about 3D with three things being one. That is already outside 2D thinking. Now if you want to restrict definitions to just what can be proven in 2D logic, we just need to agree to follow those same rules and definitions. Then we can have...

It is all by definition. Basically, by morphing the shape of the surface, the same figure can still have "all points be the same distance from the center" (as the definition of a circle) and still have equal length "lines" between 4 points evenly spaced from each other (as the definition of a...

Yikes. In some Topologies, yes, squares can be twisted around into circles. Straight lines can become curves on a surface that isn't flat. If you do not stay in the 2D plane. Our world is finite and 3D at most. Energy like love can transcend linear time and connect people outside our normal...

You are talking about our PERCEPTION or knowledge/relationship with God. Yes, the parts we argue about trying to define them in a Universal way, things we can name are finite. What God represents to people collectively is on the infinite level of having "no beginning and no end." If you want...

If you read what @Curtis means, Jesus BODY died, he acknowledges this. His SPIRIT ascended. So Curtis means in spirit Jesus remains intact, not destroyed. He is was and always exists on the heavenly level with God. I think you are both talking about the same thing in terms of physically dying...

???? @Wrangler Are you referring to the "Godhead" There is a finite consensus on God's laws which does drives MAN's patience with each other through Christ. What we can AGREE on in Christ IS Finite (The narrow gate of righteousness) And yes it will test our patience faith and forgiveness of one...

Yes, I am thankful we agree in spirit. But I am telling you, some of that language just comes across inconsistent or disrespectful. I know what you mean, but run into too many other people who read it as denying that God the Father is greater than all. (The terms "coequal" and "separate" I...

Dear @post @Wrangler I thought this was established in Christian faith that Jesus was UNJUSTLY accused and crucified for blasphemy when He WAS telling the truth. Had Jesus been guilty, the punishment would have been for worldly acts the law authorized the process and penalty for. I thought...

No, Batman and Robin are separable. Jesus as the Son/Word of God is DISTINCT from God as Creator Or we would not need a DISTINCT name for Jesus. But these are inseparable as God's Justice is inseparable from God's Truth. Justice and Truth are Distinct but Inseparable.

The more I read arguments over how to say it, I see more and more how our finite/human language isn't perfect enough to describe Jesus/God. If we state it as saying "Jesus is God" this conveys PART of the meaning that is lost by stating it as "Jesus is God's Word or Authority of Law/Justice"...

@Wrangler @Ronald Nolette This is like arguing that when "God's Justice" restores or raises up the Temple: Is that Jesus doing it or God? BOTH -- because God is doing it through *His Authority of JUSTICE* which is manifested on man's level as *JESUS*. Jesus is both one with God...

You remind me of how I could not explain Forgiveness to my mother. She is Vietnamese Buddhist. I was born and have lived in Texas all my life, so not only American but Texan where Southern Christian and beliefs in God are heavily engrained in the culture and laws. Talk about "talking about the...

I need to make this more clear @Ronald Nolette The spiritual healing FOLLOWS the faith. Like works FOLLOW faith. These works happen to be able to be medically documented so people can understand the RESULTS of the process. The actual faith remains exactly as you stated it. This is just a...

Yes we are saying the same thing. The really deep generational sins cannot be changed without receiving the healing prayers in Christ. So people will stay stuck in unforgiveness if they reject this Authority of Jesus as the only way to break free from the bondage of past sins sealed by...

Dear @Ronald Nolette To say it in direct terms The REAL difference in Salvation is Capacity for Forgiveness. The REASON unbelievers or rejectors fail is not being able to fully forgive without Jesus and God's Grace and redemption that comes from that. I don't disagree with you, but just state...

Dear @Looking4Me This is like asking : does the motivation of Justice affect people's actions? It depends on their beliefs about Justice which is the equivalent of asking what are their beliefs about Jesus. Is Justice Retributive? Then this is the side of Justice that focuses on Judgment...

The way God works, even greater! It doesn't always happen within the timeframe we expect. God is not limited by linear time as human expectations tend to measure cause, effect and results. I have seen people forgive grave injustice and take terrible financial losses. The benefits or rewards...

No, not riches for oneself as proof or that becomes boasting and judging by appearances. It is more like always having enough to share with others and for God to provide. Like the bread and fish feeding the multitudes. Or God feeding all the birds without fear of toiling. As opposed to people...

Small Miracle How vast is life's great ocean How turbulent the seas To produce this tiny pearl So sound asleep in peace So perfect and so delicate Untouched by callous wars Between embattled legions camped On not so distant shores By your tender presence You bless the world with grace...

Same here Z You kinda described my wanting to reply to one of your other msgs, but it is very personal. You inspired multiple ideas and thoughts that went in different directions. So I replied to your other msgs in the meantime. Ill get to the other one soon! You described this well. Lots of...