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Perhaps you should also ask in the Non-Christian area of the forums.

1 Corinthians 15:46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual.

No, I didn't overlook it, I just picked up where most have gotten off track, which is the point of fully understanding what it is to be born again of the spirit of God (God being spirit). Yes, "eternal in the heavens" which is that "like manner" not seen, but is the like manner of God whom is...

Because, as He said, “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser."

Ah, but there is a scripture...and it has come: Matthew 5:48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect. And that creation is fulfilled in this way: John 4:24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.” John 3:3-17 “Most...

No, I actually meant "literary." You were making your case based on the words. I was not, but rather on His voice. There is no better way.

That is literary. My explanation was not. Oh...and that same Christ can see and knows what you are writing.

There is no lie by Christ not saying He did/does his own will. This helps to understand what you are actually after: What should be understood, is that for Jesus to lower Himself and take on "the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men", simply made God not quite or fully...

That which is visible or seen--the man of sin is revealed, which Christ has put upon Himself for judgement.

The term "beheaded" is the same as was true of John the Baptist, a foreshadowing, meaning those who endured persecutions as if without Christ (the Head).

You (and most) apparently have not thought so--but it absolutely does...which I will elaborate regarding the next quote: Again--yes, it does...and this is the crux of the problem and the reason for all the misunderstanding. Everyone who testifies that "Christ has come into me" (sinful flesh) is...

Well, then you break your own rules, because your question of me was also not related. But I answered for you--and now you don't answer me, reducing your whole position and method to a mere dodge...throwing in opinion and criticisms. If your method were legit, the least you could do is to...

Quoting you for the record.

No, but rather it is the reality of being One. Which by your backlash response, you obviously don't like. How long do you think I will put up with such responses?

Yes, wheat and tares, and also sheep and goats. There are two narratives, one of Christ's sheep hearing and following, and another of strong delusion--but you are only fully acknowledging the one. Which means, you yourself are only hearing approximately half of Christ's voice...and there you...

Okay, and how does that work in the yes or no question approach you spoke of above? Let me put it this way: If sin is of this world of time, and salvation is not, can time have any bearing on it? In your yes/no scientific approach, what would yes mean, and what would no mean?

No...it means many things, but not that. Your turn. Now answer the correct question.

Sounds like you are not ready to commit. Take your time.

Answer the [correct] question...or shall I assume you know I have stumped you already? But, seriously, you are on to it, please continue.

That is not the correct question. The correct question would be to ask: Is God and the means of His salvation, of this world or not of this world? No, but that is the error of your scientific approach--you have not factored in the timeless or eternal nature of God. In which case, all His acts...