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This is where catechisms can come in handy. You said 'an individual who has chosen to believe in Jesus Christ'. The problem is which 'Jesus'? The Jesus of Mormonism who is a spirit brother of Lucifer or the Jesus of Scripture i.e. the eternal Son of God. 'Who is Jesus' is the most important...

You're no longer associated with the Vineyards?

Reformed basically have the Westminster or Belgic while the Lutherans have the Small and Large Catechism both claiming theirs are Scriptural. (We won't mention Rome's, as they have a different basis of authority). Which does my Church use? How about Acts 17:11? These were more noble than those...

Sir. You need to be born again. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (Joh 1:12-13)

I see where the problem lies. The new birth is miraculous..I once hated and scorned God, was into drugs and the occult but through the new birth I was quickly brought to love Him with a new heart that desires to please Him....then I was water baptized. Sir. You need to be born again. Jesus...

We don't. Through the new birth, He takes up residence in our lives and starts 'house-cleaning'. :)

Figured you wouldn't agree with penal substitution. You seem to have little idea of what regeneration involves...including a new nature (remember our old nature was hostile to God in Eph?). Which means a child of God would never dream of continuing in disobedience and rebellion to God's Will...

For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or...

That's absolutely not true... Romans 3:9 KJVS [9] What then? are we better than they ? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; No man born that way?... Romans 5:12,14,19 KJVS [12] Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and...

The Ephesians were no different than the rest of mankind which Paul, through the Gospel. concluded under sin... as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even...

I'll ask you the same question... Do you think that mankind with his sinful nature has equally the free will as Adam had before he sinned?

Do you think that mankind with his sinful nature has equally the free will as Adam had before he sinned? And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the...

What I was objecting to was what seemed like, 'He knows beforehand who will 'make it' and then apprehends them. It sounds like 'good luck, you're on your own, but if you make it I'll predestine you'.

So us, without any help from Him, He apprehends those who He sees had 'made it'?

Apples and oranges. Deut 29:29 is referring to the secret things of God. Things like murder, stealing and doing evil are expressly forbidden by God. They are not included in the secret things of God but are clearly revealed as forbidden. Read again... Deuteronomy 29:29 (KJV) The secret things...

I take it you mean that foreknowledge is God knowing beforehand what we will choose which in effect makes predestination of none effect.

I believe His will always comes to pass. Does His will come to pass when He is not willing that any should perish? I believe so. How? Answer: If I were God I could tell you. This may help... Deuteronomy 29:29 (KJV) The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are...

Gee, I remember the days of 'permissive' and 'absolute will'. Preceptive will is a new one on me (I have heard of decretive). I wonder how many other 'wills' we can deduce God has from Scripture? So when "God is not willing that any should perish" and yet men choose to perish, it sounds as if...

So some men are less depraved (the ones whose heart does not harden) than others?

Thanks, but I was approaching the topic from how an unbeliever comes to faith.