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Folks,. Romans 4 is pretty plain. It needs no explanation because IT IS an explanation. All of the book of Romans is that way. Peter said Paul was hard to understand, but Paul said he used great plainless of speech. Paul is hard to understand only because his simple concept of Grace is...

No. Make your point clearer. I am not going to chase colors. I am responding to the quote in question.

I absolutely agree with that verse and absolutely disagree with your emphasis on words. Jude 1:4 KJV For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God...

That is not true. Our transgressions are forgiven and our sins are covered. God does not input sin. However much sin abounds in us, Grace does much more abound.

1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. I like this verse in light of what you said. Yes, they consider it foolish, but God says the preaching of the word is power, and his power, no less. 1...

Actually I was looking at as far down as verse 28, but thanks...

I looked at the scripture again (briefly between jobs) from your point of view. I am not saying you are right or wrong at this point, but I see why you would come up with that belief. Regardless of whether God or man (and many men do) consider it (preaching) foolish, it's what God chose...

1 Corinthians 1:21 KJV For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. Paul said it, not me. And apparently a lot of others here think it's foolish, as well.

I absolutely agree. Always have and mentioned it at least a few times. But again, if God said we need a preacher, does the fact that the majority of preachers aren't preaching the truth excuse us from doing what God said? I think not! You you believe we can get the full and true gospel on...

No, that's reading. Furthermore the Bible says it must come by a preacher. Not reading. Comprehension is what matters... Ok. So have you comprehended correctly? Remember the Etheopian Eunuch. He was reading, and clearly was an educated man to actually be reading. When Philip asked him if...

You are wrong because I didn't come up with those verses, Paul did. We aren't dealing with my opinion we are dealing with what God said through Paul, and I can give at least a half dozen more. The ones I gave talked about "preaching", and the hearing thereof. If you just want to just stick to...

So did you read the part were it says faith comes by hearing, or did you gloss over that?

I don't celebrate Halloween and don't encourage others to. Analyze what's going on here: 1. It is glorifying evil, horror and terror. 2. People are dressing up as something they are not. 3. A whole bunch of gluttony and debatchery go on. Yea, normally covered by gràce... But what of it all...

Really? Ok. Show me where: Romans 10:13-14 KJV For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. [14] How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? I...

No. I did not say that. You have me confused with the holy spirit as spoken through Paul. He's the one who said it;. Not me. I just gave the scripture that says it. Romans 10:13-14 KJV For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. [14] How then shall they call on him...

Or maybe he heard another preacher.

Romans 10:14 KJV How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 1 Corinthians 1:21 KJV For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God...

Hmm... Well something changed! When Christ came SOMETHING changed! Do we even consider there was a gospel before Christ came? It was foretold, yes... It was said a change was coming. But that is still a change. I am of the mindset that it didn't change but was in development with Paul...

Well then, David, on the surface you are contradicting yourself. On the surface, that is.. Paul and James were indeed writing to specific people. We can actually find names of individuals in some of Paul's letters. But while they were writing to individuals, God was writing to us. I picked...

David, Do you really believe that? I don't think you do. If you really believe that, then why read or follow the Bible at all? I have the suspicion that you are just trying to make a point That point being that the book of James is just as relevant to us as let's say, Ephesians. I would...