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You…quote yourself? You…couldn’t just say it…because it was you speaking. You…had to put it in quote marks…and then tell me it was you speaking? …..? …..!

You can play with words as much as you like, but the simple fact is this: taking the bible “literally”…or perhaps “literalistically” insists a hermeneutic you yourself cannot uphold. You must allow for allegory and metaphor. Except, when YOU do it, its normal and right….and when I do it, its...

Excuse me? I CHANGED what the bible says? That is a serious charge, and I would hope before slinging something like that out, you would take the short amount of time needed to CHECK you weren’t blowing smoke. I most certainly did NOT change it. The ESV says “SIN”. The Greek is ἁμαρτάνω...

And I believe the bible is true. The problem with insisting that “all the bible is literal!!!” Is that you inevitably bump into such problems as Jesus is a Lamb, and God is a giant chicken. Clearly those things are metaphors…yes?

Sigh. I am not…and neither is Peter…trying to make a point about how God created time, and how he therefore must dwell, in either a philosophical or scientific, within it. Let’s quickly remember how we can use some linguistic tactics when discussing things: “Symbolism: symbolic meaning...

I’m afraid I’m unsure by what you mean by an “ongoing phenomenon”. You might need to specify, especially since the rest of your question makes little sense to me. Thanks.

It appears tangling may yet happen when preciseness is afforded to the wrong focus of a passage. This….would require a whole other conversational stream to deal with, and it is an aside from what we are speaking of. It does not, I believe, hold any particular influence or weight to our...

So…when Peter uses the phrase 1000 years, we acknowledge it is being used in a way that is not literal. He is not speaking of an actual 1000 year period. He is talking about something, in God’s experience and ‘timing’, that seems strange and non-specific and not ‘actual time’ to us. Correct?

That..was being brief?! And once again, someone has taken what is a simple and obvious answer from scripture, and tangled it up so tightly, that it has well and truly lost it’s meaning and what we need to take away from it. It’s not about the law, or about being Jewish, or even trespasses...

You make such a pronouncement as if your point is self evident…it is not. I cannot speak for other translations, but I use the ESV, which is based upon the Masoretic texts. Within the editions used for translations I do believe the Novum Testamentum Graece (28th ed) was, in some cases, drawn...

I think the story doing the rounds about him was that he has a glass eye. Thus he makes perfect meme pics. He’s not ‘grumpy cat’, he’s ‘meme cat’. Although…why would a cat have a glass eye? Can you imagine putting that thing IN? Giving a cat a pill is bad enough. :eek:

Well….I’m afraid I can’t quite make that all fit together in my head, but I don’t really have issue if you find you can!

Tragically, it is not ‘my’ cat, just some random internet meme cat. But yes…it is awesome.

I suspect your one of these fellows who refuses to countenance anything other than the KJV, and thus, further conversation might be useless, but I’ll plunge on regardless. I’m not sure how “Until” got into your translation, but we do not see it in the Greek. Λέγει αὐτῷ ὁ Ἰησοῦς Οὐ λέγω σοι ἕως...

You know…you’ve asked me before, somewhat out of the blue, what I think about a verse, and it got me stuck in the middle of an argument I didn’t know was going on. Before I answer, can I ask why you want to know and why you would like my opinion?

Ah. I must, with respect, disagree. Not “all” were destroyed at Sodom and Gomorrah…Lot and his family were spared. And again, in the 2 Thess passage, it says that Jesus will take vengeance “on them that know not God and that obey not the gospel”….which implies, does it not, that those who DO...

Ah. No. Matthew 18:21-22, 35 Then Peter came up and said to him, “Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you seven times, but seventy-seven times…. So also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you, if...

When Jesus told his disciples that they must forgive a person 70x7 times, what did he mean? When Peter tells us that for God, a day is like a 1000 years and a 1000 years is as a day, what did he mean?

I do sometimes wonder if, when Christ returns and all truth is revealed, we’ll have the capacity to be interested in it, or if we’ll simply be too consumed with joy and in moving forward. But yes, everyone is so convinced they have THE truth…and while I agree that there can be only one truth...

Do you see a gap between the tares being removed in Matt 13 and when the wheat is then gathered? And, if you don’t mind me asking, why is either gathering (wheat or tares) significantly removed in time from a ‘Rapture’ when these 2 classes of people, righteous and unrighteous, are said to grow...