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  1. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Yes! Excellent points and I thoroughly agree. For all our thoughts and ‘systems’ I tend to think when Christ does come for us, we’ll be surprised. I don’t mind, I like surprises. And I think as long as he comes, we’ll be happy.
  2. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Okay, here’s a thought. And I preface it with the warning that it IS just a thought, I’m not trying to claim it’s true or inspired by God, and I’m not hoping to stir a great deal of angst among folks who think I’m nuts…I could be, I’m just noodling through something…but I thought it was an...
  3. Naomi25

    The sun, the moon, the stars, and the sea

    All interesting thoughts, and to a large extent, I do believe metaphor plays a big part in this sort of language. But…I do urge a little caution in assigning it all to metaphor. We must acknowledge that we believe in and worship a supernatural God. It is entirely possible that not all of these...
  4. Naomi25

    Implications if Jesus does not return

    Well, it becomes a rather circuitous game we could play, does it not? IF Jesus does not return, then nothing he said, did or promised can be trusted. If he cannot be trusted, then his attested witness of God cannot be trusted. If that be the case, can any of the bible be trusted? In which case...
  5. Naomi25

    THE END OF THE PREMIL/AMIL DEBATE

    Goodness! Something on which we agree! Agreeing is good. And I suppose if we can’t all agree on God’s providence and sovereignty, then what on earth are we doing? :)
  6. Naomi25

    THE END OF THE PREMIL/AMIL DEBATE

    I do believe harder times are ahead as well. But…I think we still must hold onto some perspective…it has to get a LOT worse before we are suffering what some of our brothers and sisters are in some places of the world. The problem, I think, is that not many believe it could get that worse, that...
  7. Naomi25

    When and why will God end our world?

    Regardless if it is Chapter 1,2 or 5, it still does not say that Eve was created on the 8th day. And my point still stands; Chapters 1 & 2 imply chronological retelling was not of highest importance in the narrative. This shows a fundamental lack of understanding when it comes to terms. “Angel”...
  8. Naomi25

    THE END OF THE PREMIL/AMIL DEBATE

    I disagree. Not that the letters were prophecy…I don’t believe they were either. Relevant to all believers at all times…yes, specifically prophetic; no. What I disagree about is the vision only beginning when John was taken up to heaven. That was the beginning of that part of a significant...
  9. Naomi25

    When and why will God end our world?

    ‘Them’ as opposed to ‘him’ or ‘her’. But ‘them’ could only refer to Adam and Eve…which is indeed more than one. There is no need to see multiple ‘sons of God’ in the word ‘them’. Indeed, going on and seeing multiple ‘sons of God’ who didn’t also share in the fallen nature of man after Adam’s...
  10. Naomi25

    When and why will God end our world?

    And yet…Christ, when he was resurrected in his ‘heavenly body’ had definite physical attributes. He ate, he was touched. Interesting point: do you know that second temple Jewish literature shows that Jews believed that the demons who possessed people were actually the spirits of the Nephilim...
  11. Naomi25

    Christ and His church - a comparison of their times

    LOL! Maybe not. I dunno…he didn’t seem to like my comparison. Maybe it’s a cultural thing? Hasn’t he ever seen people eyeballing conspiracy folks and muttering “their a bit luney…”
  12. Naomi25

    THE END OF THE PREMIL/AMIL DEBATE

    Okay…I accept all that. Except…the Revelation IS the revealing of Daniel’s vision, and the churches of Revelation had just had it presented to them. I get that you’re suggesting that, like Daniel, they may have been expected to ‘wait’. But…it does not sound like that command was in the text...
  13. Naomi25

    When and why will God end our world?

    Whoa! Now, wait on! Talk about finding things in the text that just isn’t there! Please…explain to me in detail WHERE in Genesis, or the rest of scripture, you find anything that corroborates the idea that there were ‘MANY’ sons created on day 6, not just Adam…and it was then Adams ‘fallen’ line...
  14. Naomi25

    Christ and His church - a comparison of their times

    I don’t disagree with your opinion on the church. Just the functional rules governing over the gathering of the body, and what we’d see here, online. Although…one might think things would be a little more civil if the admins acted more like Elders. Too impractical, however, since there are so...
  15. Naomi25

    Christ and His church - a comparison of their times

    ‘False claims’. ‘Accusations’. I’ve only ever attempted to point out to you that as Christians we ought to be charitable, even if, at times, we cannot tolerate. That and asked for biblical clarification at times on your opinions. But, you obviously see things much differently than I do…fine...
  16. Naomi25

    Christ and His church - a comparison of their times

    Sure, and I absolutely agree with that, theologically. My comment to Truth was in context to him telling me to “sit down and hush up”…per Paul’s ‘command’. Let’s forget for a moment that he took those passages out of context and used them simply because he wanted to tell me to hush up…the fact...
  17. Naomi25

    Christ and His church - a comparison of their times

    Fact: the term “new world order” has been freely used by leaders lately…Here in Australia just recently, case in point. Fact: America IS being dismantled and is currently half the country she used to be…in influence and in moral righteous standing. Fact: people ARE having their rights...
  18. Naomi25

    Christ and His church - a comparison of their times

    Depends on context, I suppose. But for the intent of the previous conversation…no… I’m pleased that you find that fellowship here, however.
  19. Naomi25

    Christ and His church - a comparison of their times

    “Lunatic…a person whose actions and manner are marked by extreme eccentricity…” Eccentric like…seeing conspiracy theories? Explain to me again how my opinion of your opinion of his opinion was ‘false?’ Perhaps it was only an opinion. As is yours, after all.
  20. Naomi25

    Christ and His church - a comparison of their times

    Everyone’s entitled to present how they view scripture, without being told they’re lunatics. If you think they haven’t backed up their view with enough biblical evidence…ask for it. But as one who has objected before about personal attacks, I would have thought you’d be a little more thoughtful...