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  1. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Okay…I’ve ‘bolded’ what I think is your main point above. Or, at least what I see as your main point above, so…I suppose even if I get it wrong, you can see at least how I’m thinking? Sorry if once more I get it wrong. I suppose when we come to any passage, or specifically, parable…we must...
  2. Naomi25

    Poll: Tattoo art - Christian perspectives: Fight it? Ignore it? appreciate/embrace it?

    We’re very much hoping to be able to catch up after Christmas…but it does sort of depend on what our ridiculous Pollies decide between now and then. At this point they can’t make up their mind and keep moving the goal posts in terms of lockdowns and state travel etc. So, we’ll see.
  3. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Please don’t be disappointed in yourself. You know I often struggle to follow your train of thought, which is, quite frankly, more my inability to see what you’re trying to say. I’m sorry if I focused on the wrong thing. You’re right…it does seem to be an odd progression in those verses. But…I...
  4. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    You could definitely argue that. John seems to be speaking of general tribulation. Matt specifically calls what he’s speaking of as ‘great tribulation’. I think most Christians (unless they’re Post-mill or Preterist) recognise that the world is going to go out with a bang, rather than a...
  5. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Huge book! Amazing!
  6. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Thanks. :p I’d…agree with the first…maybe not with the second. Yes, I think we are supposed to attempt to noodle these things out, and yes, they ought to (if we honestly attempt to apply them) help us loose some of our biases….but…I don’t think God’s word is ever meant to leave us divided. Keep...
  7. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    I would say it has something to do with this verse: Ezekiel 36:26-27 [26] And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. [27] And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk...
  8. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    The notion that Christ has overcome and we are not to fear is certainly a biblical one and we ought to apply it. But…I’m not certain I would connect these verses or parables/teachings simply because of certain phrases (like field) used. Parables ought not, I believe, to be picked apart down to...
  9. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Okay. Should I return the favour and begin our conversation by making an assumption about you and attempting to shame you? Very well done. No, I do not believe the OT is ‘dead history’…far from it. I believe the more we dig into the OT and the culture of those who wrote it, the better equiped we...
  10. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    It may very well be that the intent of the phrase ‘those who are left’ is not what I was musing on. I never claimed it must be. I never claimed it a thought bought to me by God. It was, I thought clearly articulated, a side thought I found interesting, worthy of chatting over to see what others...
  11. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    But…what if our very notions ON things such as ‘the tribulation’ or ‘the millennium’ are faulty? Not altogether wrong, but not quite right. Think of it this way, when navigating, if someone is off just by a fraction, no big deal starting off, but by the time they’ve travelled a long way, they...
  12. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Yeah. I think I pointed that out.
  13. Naomi25

    The Wrath of the Lamb vs. the Wrath of God

    Well, the Greek word used is ‘autos’, which can be used as he or they. But, in context of the whole verse, I’d say ‘they’ is proper, even though, yes, it is creating unity between the two. “…hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, [17] for the...
  14. Naomi25

    The Wrath of the Lamb vs. the Wrath of God

    Well…without digging into this deeply, my initial thought is: its not really explained as different anyway. Consider: Revelation 6:16-17 [16] calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, [17] for...
  15. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    I think it so depends on which side of the bias we come to a passage. Which is something I ‘intellectually’ knew, but have started viewing with a little more cognitive elasticity. For an Amillennial, they would absolutely view the parable of the weeds as the bad going first. No brainer. And...
  16. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Well, I always understood the Matt 24:41 parable needed to be understood in light to its reference to the flood of Noah. Matthew 24:38-41 [38] For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, [39] and...
  17. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Well, one must equal t’other, don’t you think? The parable lists them as ‘sons’…people. But, within people are the clear manifestations of either spirit or flesh. People either choose one or the other, there is no middle ground for us.
  18. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    I think I said that the Rapture was very real. Can you point to where I said otherwise? And, while I also said that my ‘thought’ was in no way me positing a strong biblical argument, lets say that I was: how is having the ‘evil-doers’ taken away in judgement first, and THEN being gathered...
  19. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Oh goodness, of course there are, I never implied (or intended to) otherwise. I just thought it was an interesting observation to think on. What if it is true? Doesn’t mean it is? I just like to chew a thought around from all angles sometimes. I’ve been good, thanks. You?
  20. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    I’ve heard a few people’s take on this verse, but I’m not sure I’ve ever been truly satisfied with them. I think, like you’ve put here, my only response is: ? I don’t know.