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  1. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    I’m clearly missing much of the back story there. I was rather baffled by his short question and even shorter response to me. Anyway, thanks for your answer and explaining to me what you’d meant…God bless your ongoing discussions with him!
  2. Naomi25

    Church Father Justyn Martyr 100-165AD, Taught The Thousand Years Was Eternal, Not On This Earth

    Well…I wouldn’t strictly categorise myself as an Amil. Maybe I was, at one point. Maybe I still share some of their understandings…but by no means all.
  3. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Hi Chris! Thanks for your reply. I confess…I have not read all here too…just the ones addressed to me. It’d be nice to have the time to be able to sit and read every reply, however…! That said, no worries if you must repeat a question. “The parables were not used to make the teaching plainer...
  4. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Okay, thanks. I’ll have a look through those passages and study them a little…see what I can make of them in light of the topic.
  5. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Well, I may have. I wasn’t entirely sure what either of them were attempting to say. But…that wasn’t really my point…I don’t know that I was attempting to make a point. Oseas seemed to be saying ‘something’ and suggesting it in regards to what I had said. Considering I had ‘said’ a ten word...
  6. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Ok..so. It seems I have inadvertently stepped into a conversation that is not mine. Or been bought into it. I fully confess that I am unsure of the reason behind ‘Waiting on hims’ question and response to my post….however. I prefer if you did NOT try and interpret what I ‘meant’. At least...
  7. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    You know, I don’t know that I’ve ever heard that about the Rapture before…that its not strictly an ‘end time’ event. If I may ask a question? How can you know that the ‘wrath’ we are promised to avoid, is ‘tribulation’ wrath…and not the wrath of eternal destruction that is coming upon those who...
  8. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Well…with the full proviso that I may have missed your point…. If to ‘come down’ was to humble oneself before God, what about all the fallen angelic ones, even Princes or watchers, who still do not bow the knee? Although, I suppose there could be a distinction between ‘come down’ and ‘cast...
  9. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    I do agree that there can be a tend…whether its in ‘old time’ preachers, or ‘new time relevance’ that would lead people to not heed the word as inerrant and divine. Which it is…which it must be regarded as and protected as. But, there can be great value in considering those God chose and used TO...
  10. Naomi25

    Church Father Justyn Martyr 100-165AD, Taught The Thousand Years Was Eternal, Not On This Earth

    No, no. I’m sure you’re quite right. I’m sure “behold, I make all things new” is, in point of fact, more correctly understood as “behold, I make all things different”. After all, why would we expect any continuity in this earth, after he declared the one he originally made good? After we see...
  11. Naomi25

    Church Father Justyn Martyr 100-165AD, Taught The Thousand Years Was Eternal, Not On This Earth

    Remember when I said “this earth just made new”..? Yeah…I meant: ‘this earth made new”. And, when I said just as there’d be continuity between our old and new selves, thus there would be continuity between the old and new earth….I meant it to mean…it would still be THIS earth…not entirely...
  12. Naomi25

    Church Father Justyn Martyr 100-165AD, Taught The Thousand Years Was Eternal, Not On This Earth

    Just feel I should probably point out that any Kingdom OF the ‘new heavens/new earth’ WILL be an earthly kingdom. This earth, more to the point. Just as we will still be…us…this earth will still be…this earth, just made new. Thus, any kingdom reigning from it, even eternally, will be a very...
  13. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Jesus spoke to the world. He created the universe (many worlds).
  14. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Did you miss the part where this was wild speculation on my part…like “what if unicorns were real?” Nice you took the time to really address it tho. Yes, I believe in a ‘last day’ resurrection for all. And, while I enjoy a bit of speculation here and there, and also enjoy conversation with those...
  15. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    I think you’re making assumptions. The first assumption is that I’m taking the passage in isolation. I’m not, I’m open to considering the balance of other end times passages in how I view it. The other assumption is that I’m attempting to assert a doctrine. I mean…how clear was I that it was...
  16. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Maybe its just natural talent then. Probably beneficial to have when trying to get your brethren into disciplined bible study…I’m sure it will make them more inclined to listen to you. Shamed into discipline. When has that not worked? Oh golly. Are you one of those folks who think God used...
  17. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    I’m sorry, but that makes little sense. Christ’s coming IS the end of the age. How is the harvest to be sown AND harvested AT the same time?
  18. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    You needed be apologetic (even though you said you weren’t!). My Grandparents were ‘dyed in the wool dispensationalists’ and I loved them like crazy. So, you would see the Matt 13 ‘parable of the weeds’ as, most likely, speaking of the judgment at Christ’s return (not the Rapture) then? As in...
  19. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    I think, perhaps, it could quite likely be both. Because scripture indicates it. The notion of false Christ’s and apostles, come to deceive and lead astray people is a clear warning/teaching in scripture. One we must be aware of. However, I think there is also passages that indicate very real...