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Do you not get that Scripture tells us very plainly that God willingly subjected all creation to futility and corruption and then redeemed it. By your own reasoning then, God cannot be God. He owned it all. He let it all fall. Then he redeemed it all. Imagine that, Vengle! You can ignore...

Did you take this post from your own blog?

Your objection is nothing but a philosophical presupposition that finds no support in Scripture. Ever hear of the Fall? Christ inherits all that he redeemed through the cross. He inherits all that he set free from bondage and futility. Notice in verse 20, below, who it was that willingly...

How depraved is man? This should pretty much cover it. . . Rom 3:9 What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, Rom 3:10 as it is written: "None is righteous, no, not one; Rom 3:11 no one understands; no one...

I'm happy that you're happy Insight, but don't think for second that I can't defend the Son's preexistence. If you wish, that is a topic for another thread.

That's cute Vengle, but you're not exempt from your own charge. That does not surprise me. You do not want to see it. I could use the largest type for the words "and the Word was God" and you would still not see it. Be that as it may, there is still nothing in Col. 1:18 that conveys the idea...

I see nothing in Colossians 1:18 that says Christ "acquired" preeminence.

Where does Scripture say that Christ "acquired" preeminence?

First and foremost, the term "firstborn" (prototokos) never means "first created." It simply never carries such a connotation. Ancient Eastern cultures often used the term "firstborn" to indicate priority or preeminence that will be handed down to a child, (usually the one born first), within a...

So you're assigning ulterior motives to those responsible for the lexical definition of "charis?" That's quite an arrogant attitude to take for someone who has no formal Greek training. Who said anything about, "cancelling out the need of running the race and walking in the power of God?" That's...

It's all there in Acts 9. Here's the nutshell version. Christ calls and commissions Paul on the road to Damascus, (vs. 4-6). Paul receives the Holy Spirit and is baptized, (vss. 17, 18). Paul spends some time with other disciples, possibly learning the Gospel, (vs. 19). Then he immediately...

I don't know how you could have misread that definition so badly. Look again. It says very clearly that grace is "the merciful kindness by which God exerts his holy influence." Once again, looking carefully at the proper lexical definition of the Greek word "charis" we see that grace is not that...

It comes from Thayers Greek Lexicon.

I'll ask you again Insight, where exactly is idolatry connected with "many drums?" None of your references mention drums at all. Would you care to explain this in light of you assertions?

How about providing us with some references Insight? Where exactly is idolatry connected with "many drums?"

Good for you. You've got it right.

The OP led me to believe that we're talking about musical style, for which there is no Biblical prohibition. If we're talking about lyrical content, I have a problem with Stryper too. Some of their tunes are extremely Arminian/semi-Pelagian in concept, which I find theologically problematic...

Unfortunately it happens all too often.

My thought is that there is no problem at all. I know I'm showing my age here, but I was overjoyed when I discovered bands like Stryper and Holy Soldier. There's nothing wrong with a Christian alternative for those who love metal.

Wow. Truly amazing. Let's properly define "grace." The Greek word translated "grace" has a fairly wide semantic range, but the definition in question here is # 2 & 2a. Notice that "grace" is basically God's favor or kindness toward individuals, which he demonstrates by exerting his influence in...