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Sorry. Neither of you answered my question. You both simply made bad excuses why Scripture doesn't mean what it says. As for the word "worship" Vengle, your excuse just doesn't cut it. Verse 8 should clear up your confusion. Worship rightly belongs to Christ because he is God. Heb 1:8 But of...

Thanks. I'm glad it helped. I agree that the real problem here is indoctrination. I would also add philosophical hang-ups and allowing "reason" to trump Scripture.

Heb 1:6 And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him." Now I'm going to ask some questions. Scripture clearly tells us that only God is to be worshiped. If Jesus is not God, how is it that angels are told to worship him? If Jesus is not...

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word. . . I thought you were "deep" into Greek Vengle? How could you get this so wrong? First, "in the beginning" refers to creation. Look at verse 3. You have to pay attention to context. Second, do see the word "was" in John 1:1? That is the imperfect tense...

You said: I stated that "eimi" is not a defective (deponent) verb because it conveys a state of being and therefore does not have "voice." I said no more than that. Again, I did not make a new rule. I did not misapply an old rule. My "use" of the information in question was limited to what I...

I invented it? Let's examine your current error, shall we? Where exactly does the verb "eimi" convey an action committed by the subject. If I say "I am this or I am that" no action is committed. I am communicating a "state of being." When there is no action committed by or to the subject of...

I asked you to explain the Greek text behind John 1:1 and you use a scatter gun approach that never mentions it. Your approach there is not exegetical. Once again, your arguments are mostly philosophical presupposition. For that reason most of it will go unanswered. However, the quote above is...

In that case, a trip to your doctor might be your best bet. He/she may be able to help you figure out what's going on.

I think Prentis has the following passage in mind: 1Jn 3:2 Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is. 1Jn 3:3 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he...

What kind of chemicals are we talking about? Some can be very toxic. Are you using the proper safety equipment? Maybe you need to see a doctor.

There's always a place for peaceful and calming. I like that too. But, are you sure you want to make a blanket statement like that and ignore the clear teaching of Scripture on this matter? Apparently, quiet and peaceful aren't the only way to worship God. Psa 150:1 Praise the LORD! Praise God...

Great. Then it shouldn't be too difficult for you to explain how the Greek text supports your anti-trinitarian position. I've never run into an anti-Trinitarian that is fine with the way most English Bibles translate John 1:1. It's counter-intuitive to the core. This should be interesting. I'm...

No, Insight. I'm talking about a formally structured,moderated debate within a closed thread. It will be visible to all, but only you and I will be able to post. This will facilitate focus. You will actually have to deal with what I present instead of slipping around it.

I have no such plan, but thanks for your concern.

O.k. Vengle, so you're out. Maybe Insight has finally found enough time to accept my challenge. I'll wait. You know what Vengle? Not so fast. Since you've made such a claim, then why don't you go ahead and explain how the Greek text supports your anti-trinitarian position. I'm all ears. Then...

Oh, Vengle, John 1:1 is telling us a bit more than that. It tells us that not only was the Word with God, it tells us that the Word was God. This is very multi-personal, (even Trinitarian) language. Would you like for me to explain to you and Insight the Greek behind the very clear text of John...

Well, your "suggestion" would be incorrect. Where have I ever said that God is a "single persona?" I'm a Trinitarian Insight, not a unitarian.

The PCA formed in 1973. The RPCES merged with the PCA in 1982.

I'm not avoiding anything. Not all Calvinists are amillennial. Many of us happen to be premillennial, but not dispensational.