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    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    There is only one individual identified as a prince in Daniel 9:24-27. He is "Messiah the Prince" in verse 25, who is the grammatical antecedent/referent of "the prince that shall come" in verse 26, who is the grammatical antecedent/referent of the "He's" in verse 27. Messiah the Prince did...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    There's no reference to a temple in either Matthew 24:15 or Luke 21:20. Matthew 24:15 refers to "the holy place", and Luke 21:20 identifies it as "Jerusalem", which was known from Biblical antiquity as the holy city. Thus the two verses corroborate one another in identifying the (Roman)...
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    If you don't understand the answer, just leave it for those who do.
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    They don't disagree with Ice's belief in a pretrib rapture. You agree with Ice's false claim that Wycliffe believed in a pretrib rapture. No mystery at all.
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    They believe what Ice T tells them it means. :laughing:
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    Nor have you researched your own. ADD - Avoidance, Distraction, Denial - as expected. Thanks for the confirmations. :laughing:
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    Show us an equivalent Lexicon in which 2 Thes. 2, 3 reflects your opinion. :laughing:
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    Yes, not a mistake. Brother John Wycliffe declares that it's a deliberate misrepresentation.
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    Your Number II above includes neither the Church nor 2 Thessalonians 2:3. But Number II 2 above includes both the Church and 2 Thessalonians 2:3. It describes exactly what Paul meant by the apostasy i.e. the falling away.
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    When you substitute "the rapture" for "the departure", that too is a singular event.
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    The WYC preceded the KJV by more than 200 years. And the WYC defined the departure, that you claim is the rapture, as "dissension". A definition of "discessio," the word used in the Vulgate, is found at this site. Included near the end is a specific ecclesiological subdefinition: "In the...
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    This argument? :laughing: Here is Wycliffe's translation: 2 Thessalonians 2:3 [That] No man deceive you in any manner. For but dissension come first [For no but departing away, or dissension, shall come first], and the man of sin be showed, the son of perdition, Wycliffe defines "departing...
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    John Wycliffe defines your physical departure as "dissension". 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Wycliffe [That] No man deceive you in any manner. For but dissension come first [For no but departing away, or dissension, shall come first], and the man of sin be showed, the son of perdition,
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    Did any pretribber reply to this? I haven't seen it.
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    The suppression/misrepresentation, which persists to this day despite being clearly debunked, is far too obvious to be a mistake. It's deliberate.
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    It's the truth that exposes and humiliates, bro. I merely report it. There's no excuse for the deliberate suppression or misrepresentation of pertinent truth.
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    Here is Wycliffe's translation: 2 Thessalonians 2:3 [That] No man deceive you in any manner. For but dissension come first [For no but departing away, or dissension, shall come first], and the man of sin be showed, the son of perdition, Wycliffe defines "departing away" as dissension. Did you...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Here is Wycliffe's translation: 2 Thessalonians 2:3 [That] No man deceive you in any manner. For but dissension come first [For no but departing away, or dissension, shall come first], and the man of sin be showed, the son of perdition, Wycliffe defines "departing away" as dissension. Did you...
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    To what does the APOSTASIA refer

    Obviously you don't understand the explanations. I agree.
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    From 457 BC to 34 AD is 490 years.
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