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    Aspen and Tigger 2 discuss 'who is God?'

    Stranger wrote: (Luke 17:15-16) "And one of them, when he saw that he was healed, turned back, and with a loud voice glorified God, And fell down on his face at his feet, giving him thanks....") That is very close to what the NT text says alright. The problem is the uses of the pronouns 'his'...
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    Aspen and Tigger 2 discuss 'who is God?'

    I have about 20 pages in my personal study about John 20:28. How much would you read?
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    Aspen and Tigger 2 discuss 'who is God?'

    1 Samuel 25:23: "When Abigail saw David, she hurried and dismounted from her donkey, and fell on her face before David and bowed herself to the ground." - NASB. 2 Samuel 1:2. "... and so it was, when he came to David, that he fell to the earth, and did obeisance. - ASV. Clear declarations for...
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    Seven Lessons for John 1:1c

    No one taught me this, nor have I seen it anywhere else. Calling me a liar does not avoid the fact that all my personal research for this, which took me a number of years, is available in the links I have given you. Even the first 5 'Lessons,' when carefully examined, show the truth of the...
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    Seven Lessons for John 1:1c

    Wormwood wrote: [I understand what Colwell said (which is not true). And I understand how many trinitarians have interpreted and presented Colwell's Rule which is even more untrue. And I understand how his examples are mostly flawed examples. Here is what he wrote in his 1933 JBL article...
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    Seven Lessons for John 1:1c

    I don't mind people joining in when they stick to the subject and ask questions when they don't understand. And I hate personal attacks, red herrings, etc.
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    Seven Lessons for John 1:1c

    I have a blog with 80% of my research on it, but I can reach out to even more people in discussion groups like this.
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    Seven Lessons for John 1:1c

    As Aspen wrote on another thread: "Typical response. Let anyone one else do the research and then, dismiss it with an opinion" Anyone who complains about the results of another's honest, reproducible study (mostly NT Greek as used by John) and refuses to examine it lacks wisdom. - Hypoxia 7:3.:)
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    Aspen and Tigger 2 discuss 'who is God?'

    Wow! That's something I almost never hear. Thank you very much.
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    Aspen and Tigger 2 discuss 'who is God?'

    GG: Ps. 110:1 more honestly says: "Jehovah [YHWH] saith unto my Lord [ADN or kurios in OT Greek], Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool." - ASV. Unfortunately, early 'Christians' removed God's only personal name (YHWH) from all their writings (probably shortly...
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    satan a creature or man without God

    The NT Greek word for 'messengers' is the same as for heavenly messengers - aggelous (angels). See Luke 9:52 and 1 Cor. 6:3 in an interlinear.
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    Seven Lessons for John 1:1c

    I've been throwing it out for discussion for years now, So far no miracles. In fact, I don't believe anyone has even read it all. Maybe If I post the 50+ page original I completed 30+ years ago ....
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    Aspen and Tigger 2 discuss 'who is God?'

    GG: "As to John 17:3 you'll get the standard reply which @aspen has given you. When the 2nd person of the Trinity was incarnated as the person Jesus, He did lower Himself, even though He retained many aspects of God - or attributes. He was human 100%. He was God 100%. "Since JESUS' Father was...
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    The Mormons Are Coming

    Aspen wrote (#25): "The Mormons were on time and eager to share the gospel of Jesus with us and tell us about God’s plan for giving us bodies. I was eager to speak about commonalities, but was often lead in to crazy topics like a historically inaccurate Great Apostacy and weird ideas about...
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    ScottA and Tigger 2 discuss Who is God?

    The meaning of one's name, especially in this time period, often did not refer to the one who bore that name. This is especially true of a multi-word name which included 'God' (el) or YHWH (Yeho-, Jehu-, -yah, -jah) These were often praises to Jehovah. For example, 'Elijah' meant "God...
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    Seven Lessons for John 1:1c

    G. John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.): The Word (ho Logos) A few trinitarians actually attempt to “prove” that John 1:1c should be translated as “and the Word [Logos] was God” rather than “and the Word [Logos] was a god” by appealing to one of the strictly pagan concepts of “The Logos”! But, as...
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    Seven Lessons for John 1:1c

    F. John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.): Origen, the great Christian scholar (185 - 254 A.D.), spoke Koine Greek as his native language and knew it so well that he even taught it professionally. He was “probably the most accomplished Biblical scholar produced by the early Church” (Universal Standard...
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    Seven Lessons for John 1:1c

    E. John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.): The above posts show that word order (predicate noun before the verb as found in the NT Greek of John 1:1c) does not change the meaning to an understood article (“the”) as Colwell’s Rule suggests or some nebulous ‘qualitative’ meaning as some other trinitarian...
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    Seven Lessons for John 1:1c

    D. John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.): It’s been many years since I looked up all the clauses in John’s writing which had predicate nouns (also called predicate nominatives). Then I made a list of all of them which are parallel to John 1:1c (predicate noun coming before the verb). I didn’t have a...
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    Seven Lessons for John 1:1c

    C. John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.): But, you may ask, Isn’t there a significance to the reversed word order in the Greek (‘god was the word’) which is, in English, ‘the word was god.’? If you will examine a good NT interlinear, you will find that word order is basically meaningless. NT Greek...