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Thanks! But I don't see that as being greatly different if "all kinds" are included. I would say that the point is really that "all kinds" would even include those who are evil. Hence the times.

I laid out the proof according to the actual church history. But you are correct in saying that it has been repudiated before--but the last time you revealed that they even "quenched the spirit" against the commandment of the scriptures 1 Thessalonians 5:19: 1 Corinthians 2:15 But he who is...

"Gnostic"..No. They believed that all things have already past. I do not. As for "going back"...I said "return." Which, sorry, both would imply the passing of time...which is true, because in the end...it has indeed come to pass. Hence the confusion. But good--you are thinking with question...

No...that is not at all what I meant. But, per usual, you are showing yourself to be beyond a reasonable ability emotionally and too charged up to have a rational discussion. So, I will elaborate, but if you are serious about settling on the truth, you will have to show a considerable amount...

Then why did you respond only to what would be considered natural...which you called "literal?" Why did you not speak to the spiritual instead? God is spirit. Why don't you elaborate the spiritual now? After all that is the point of the discussion.

Add to that idea the power of all mighty God...an certainly anything is possible!

The "house" reference is a good point confirming what the revelation of God having created all that we know of as the universe, as being the substance of signs and demonstration, rather than simply being the creation of things, or even flesh and blood. The "house" reference points to where...

I do understand it... My point was that if you are only looking at the worldly events as worldly events, you will not discern the spiritual meaning, as they only point to what is spiritual. It is the spiritual that I have been explaining, but your comebacks are for the most part pertaining to...

Okay... Would you not say that Jesus is the center of all this, the center of all of Daniel's prophecy and the times appointed? If so, then He has stated the times as the times of the two flocks of sheep that He must bring, the house of Israel, and then the gentiles. As He said, "It is...

You are looking at things as if the context were the world--but it is not. The truth of the matter is, it was God who started off with "created" and man as an "image", "and then went off" (as you say). And I shouldn't have to tell you that the words are spiritually discerned, because the...

The prophecies that I have been quoting now repeatedly for many posts. That Jesus put a fork in the path of whom to follow; that He would come when you do not expect; that if any should say He delays His coming, He would cut them in two and give them their portion with the hypocrites; that false...

Okay...lets try a different tact: Since Jesus said His words are spirit, and since they are spiritually discerned according to the apostle Paul-- The words you just quoted from Jesus, what do they mean spiritually?

Hmmm...do you think Buddha was born twice, or insisted that people eat his flesh and drink his blood? ...Nah, that's crazy talk! Oh, but thanks, and do tell Nicodemus I said hello!

Well, if you are okay with turning a blind eye to the fact that even we are made in an "image", or that God has made it clear that He has been speaking in parables, and that the creation plan was for signs as a demonstration of things on high...then you need not be concerned about it. Just live...

Because from the very beginning (Genesis 1:1) the "creation" is defined as a mere "demonstration" to reveal rather than form. The point being that the creation is rather, as it is with man, an "image" of what is to be. So, rather than God's intentions resulting in an unintentional fall, that is...

I refer you to: God "CREATED" -- What it actually means.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. created H1254 H853 The KJV translates Strong's H1254 in the following manner: create And here's the kicker-- H853 contracted from H226 in the demonstrative sense of entity; properly, self: The KJV translates Strong's H226...

I answered here: Thy Kingdom come.

Yes, just as it is written. But you are reading what is spiritual and not of the world. With the scales removed, 2 Thes 1:6-9 (and Luke 22:28-30) speak of that time of "each one in his own order", which if you do not believe that the end and fulfillment of all things is by name Christ, the...

That is close...except for it already happening, for it has yet to happen with those who's order is yet to come. This order continues as it has since Pentecost until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled--which continues until the very last "one"..."each one in his own order."