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The point is that there are not two groups...not when all are in Christ. And that is the timing of "when" He hands the kingdom back to the Father...but when is that? It is as it is written: "Then comes the end." Which is not a time reference, but a Who reference...the timing of whom has already...

Of course God can speak and create bodies of matter, and He has. But He being spirit is "perfect" and just as Christ went to the Father, we also go, "that where He is we may be also." That is the perfection and the end of the matter. In other words, the scriptures do not say that God being...

Isaiah 44:6 “Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God. Deuteronomy 6:4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one! The "image" of scripture has two faces, but God is One.

It is true that two opinions only accomplish disagreement. But the interpretation of scripture belongs to God: Genesis 40:8 And they said to him, “We each have had a dream, and there is no interpreter of it.” So Joseph said to them, “Do not interpretations belong to God? Tell them to me...

Okay...but keep going: John 10:16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.

Now, hold on... God is spirit.

I quoted you twice. This makes strike three--you're out.

We should address this: Jesus said: Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and in the midst of the seven lampstands One like the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the feet and girded about the chest with a golden band...

You mean all 6 of us are on at one time? :D

Conveniently you added to your lie by quoting [the wrong post] where you pit God against the Bible (His Word). Hint: You did that in your Original Post.

Is it just me or is Christianity Board timing out and not available more and more here lately?

Two can play at this. I never said you said "that they were not on the same page at all." That was a lie you told. See how you are? But, hey, if you want to have a serious conversation--stop making accusations and present your issue. There are now 6 pages of junk posted...all because you...

I did, and how I did, was reading your post which is all over the map touching on bits of doctrine that obviously have irritated you and are now pet peeves you are venting about in addition to preaching about, claiming the Bible (God's Word) and God are not even the same. Yep, got that all from...

If you have your own agenda...well...you have your own agenda. None of this can be taken serious...except that you obviously have a serious issue, causing you to vent and preach, and pit God against His own sovereign Word.

No...confirmation of scripture is not "opinion", it is how "every word is established."

All "who come to the Father", verse 6.

The problem is...everyone believes and receives by their own measure (and by the same measure it is measured back to each). That is why we have such disagreement amongst us. But what good does it do if we only seek that measure that suits us, that measure that tickles our ears? How long will...

Tribulations, weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Yes, when we hear Jesus knock and open the door to Him and He enters into us and we in Him, He quite literally walks among us in resurrection power carrying every sin to the end of the age, until the fulness of the gentiles is complete. These are as the days of Noah, the waters above ever...

Ugh...this is the rehashing of age old assumptions for and against, which is also foretold. There are many questions presented here and many assumptions of speculation and conjecture, which is not a good approach to seeking the truth, leaving many to continue to stumble. The better approach is...