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OK can we focus on the critical point so far which is the need to surrender your will to God to be born again. If not He can not work His works through you because you have not given Him permission.

They also received the holy spirit within when He breathed on them.

Did they receive the holy Spirit when they were born again, or did He come later ???

So was this when they responded to His call to follow ? If so this was before they received the Holy Spirit ??

Would you like to expand on this point please?

OK is this exercise helpful ??? On the relationship between being born again and being baptised, I can say the following. Being born again relates to a commitment Being Baptised in water relates to a witness and renunciation. I don't see clear record of this point in Scripture but the...

Regarding the issue of OSAS Paul is clear that yes we have to make good choices but this does not dictate our ultimate destination. The verse below lays this out - Here are the points. 1. focus on the good. 2. Your old self is dead and cant dictate your ultimate outcome. 3. God has hidden...

I should add that I think it is quite common for folks to be afraid of total commitment and that is why the surrender of the will is a problem for some. I have to say that there is resistance to accepting this requirement because some hold 'free will' as sacrosanct. Yet giving up our free will...

Just to explain, I think that a good understanding of what happens at rebirth may help to solve the OSAS issue. A pivotal point is the surrender of the will to Jesus. I have come to the conclusion that at rebirth we give Him ultimate control of our lives from that point forward. Folks who...

OK thanks...

OK so far so good... Here is a few more questions. This is a focus on what happens when we are born again. 1. What becomes 'new' ??? 2. What happens to our sin from that point on ??? 3. Is our salvation 'recorded' ??? 4. What is our new spiritual status ??? 5. What keeps us saved ??? 6...

Who is the Mathew you refer to ???

OK someone comes to you with no biblical knowledge saying they had a dream about Jesus and are fully convinced they must become a Christian and they are clearly under conviction. How would you guide them to becoming born again? Remember they are unfamiliar with Christian language and culture...

When ???

I hear varied opinions about what it means to be 'born again' I have several questions to kick this off. 1. Is it necessary for salvation ? 2. Does it involve a surrender of the will to Jesus ? 3. Can it be reversed ? 4. Does being born again require repentance ? 5. Does it guarantee...

This area of Christian experience is better understood by those who have been captive to the demonic and delivered. I am a prodigal son - wondered away for 11 years - ended up with a shipwrecked life and was restored over a seven year period. I had spiritual strongholds in my life that I had...

I will start is seperate thread to discuss what it means to be born again...

I have just requested we close this thread.

We will Have to agree to disagree. Earlier in the thread it was suggested that we examine what being 'born again' actually is. To be born again one must submit to Jesus and surrender ones will. Better to examine this issue on another thread - this disagreement indicates a fundamental...

Fundamental to being born again is to surrender ones will to Him. " it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." Those truely born again relinquish the right to reject Him later - it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. The Holy Spirit came...