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  1. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I suppose the whole "type" thing can be taken to an extreme. I think Rahab is probably a good example of that. As you said, all the book says is that Rahab tied a scarlet cord in her window. It kind of reminds me of the sprinkling of blood on the first Passover. It seems like there could be some...
  2. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I don't think either one of us is far from the truth, but, "we'll know all about farther along..." I think you're a good man. I'm blessed to call you my brother!
  3. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Well, you just don't think as convoluted as I think! :)
  4. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    God does in fact "save" Gentiles in Revelation. As you say, that was never a secret. I guess it comes down to what did Paul mean by the secret that was hidden in God from ages and from generations. I maintain it is something other than the aforementioned promises God made about the Gentiles in...
  5. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    Well, I guess you'd have to say I do feel guilty until I confess my sin to God. But I'll confess it as soon as I realize I did sin, so the guilt doesn't last long enough to make me feel too very bad. Why do I go against my conscience in the first place? Rom 7:20-25, 20 Now if I do that I...
  6. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    Neither. I sometimes do go against my conscience but I don't feel guilt. I confess my indiscretion to God, and, as per 1 John, He forgives me and cleanses me from all unrighteousness. What's to feel guilty about? :) One of these days God is going to use me (and you, and all Christians) as an...
  7. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    We must consider the whole scope of scripture and avoid building a doctrine a a few isolated verses. 1 Pet 1:1, Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 1 Pet 2:11-12, 11 Dearly beloved, I beseech [you] as...
  8. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Technically, the word "type" is not in the scriptures, so you are absolutely right in saying there are not "types" of Jesus in the OT. However what we can say, is that the OT is all about Jesus, at least if we are to believe Jesus' words, which I'm sure you do. :) Here's what Jesus said...
  9. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Sorry to keep hammering the same point, but nobody knew about the mystery, this present age of grace, until God revealed it to Paul. Since Paul came some time after Jesus spoke these words, they can in no way refer to the Christian church. You have to look elsewhere for the answer as to whom God...
  10. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Well, since the mystery was secret at the time James referred to, it can't be talking about the Christian church. However, while the church was a secret, it was no secret that the Gentiles would one day flock to Jerusalem. That's all in the future though. Rev 21:24, And the nations of them...
  11. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Sounds like a baited question, but I'll bite. :) The descendants of the one's God led our of Egypt. The people who Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekial, etc addressed. Isa 1:1, The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, [and]...
  12. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Are you saying that the Gentiles would be fellow heirs and part of the same body with the Jews is not part of the mystery? Why do you exclude those but include, "and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel?"
  13. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Look at all the OT quotes in Romans 9-11. Now keep in mind that the Christian church was a secret that God kept to Himself until He revealed it to Paul. That means that all those OT quotes in Romans are not talking about the church. They're talking about something else, which I covered in my...
  14. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Do I understand you to say that there are no "types" of Jesus in the OT? According to Jesus, the whole thing is about him. John 5:39, Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
  15. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The mystery was that the Jews and Gentiles would become one body and joint heirs. Eph 3:3-6, 3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was...
  16. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yeah, that is sure a big part of it. Good point.
  17. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    What???? You must have misunderstood or I wasn't clear. I actually said the whole book is about Jesus. John 5:39, Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
  18. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    Well, after hundred or so replies, I'm afraid I have to agree with you 100%. It usually falls on deaf ears for whatever reason. But I plug along anyway. Just a few weeks ago I was blessed to lead a woman into tongues. She loves it. She just asked me today about interpretation of tongues. So...
  19. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    Well then you must be able to say along with Jesus, "I always do my Father's will." You have no problems with that? If not, OK, but I'll not make such a claim.
  20. Rich R

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You may be mixing me up with someone else. I never heard of a National Ethnic Israel, so I didn't say anything at all about them. God promised a physical kingdom to Israel. One with a temple, a priest, a king, etc. That is not the church. As Paul said many times, the church was a secret that...