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  1. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The dead in Christ did die! Then they were raised as we who were alive at the time also were. We then return to the earth with Him as where he is there will we also be. We then rule for 1000 years.
  2. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    No. The Rapture, the gathering of the church into the air including the dead in Christ is what kicks off the day of the Lord. The wrath of God is not something we are to be part of.
  3. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The last hour is not the day of the Lord! The day of the Lord starts with the Rapture and includes the 1000 years.
  4. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Yes, we are coming back with Him. Do not pretend that because Satan has wrath in the tribulation, that that trumps the fact it is God's wrath and Satan is only part of that. The Rapture. Correct. Very comforting to know Jesus is coming to take us out before He takes them out!
  5. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Irellevant. A wet hornet might also have some wrath in that time. That no more makes the Great Tribulation the 'time of the hornet's wrath' than it makes it the time of Satan's wrath! Sure, both have wrath, whoopee doo. Those demon like creatures coming out of the pit at that time probably also...
  6. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The day of the Lord is a lot more than that. There are oodles events in that time of wrath, not just the day Jesus comes back to earth! Old men will not see visions only on the day Jesus returns! His Spirit is not poured out only the day Jesus returns! Signs will not only be the day Jesus...
  7. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Says you. Not Jesus. Job 21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath. So when is that reserved time? In the end. Psalms 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is...
  8. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Nope. Their dominion was taken away...we will rule. When? For the 1000 years. Simple.
  9. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Bingo As Jesus says Luke 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. So if you are still here in those days you are here for wrath Nope. The lake is not here in...
  10. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    There is a certain time 'in those days' when it is nothing usual and not to be compared with other times at all. It is unique and it is THOSE days Jesus said were wrath. Wrath does not have to be designated a woe! Like a woman who is in labor it gets more intense as time passes.
  11. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Says who? Luke 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. Jesus disagrees with you. No that time is the time of wrath. No way around it.
  12. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Not 'tribulation' but that special period of wrath known as the Great Tribulation and even the first part of the day of the Lord before that as well. Right, THAT tribulation!
  13. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Not sure what you thought this meant. Have you some point?
  14. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    I disagree. Being appointed to that wrath is not biblical
  15. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    If you agree the new earth is after the 1000 years then what is your point? Yes first He breaks them then He takes over and rules. You do not rule people that you just disintegrated into nothing on a burned out planet. This is news? No. Breaking them is needed to rule. Not like they will vote...
  16. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    False. He mentioned it would pass away, but no timing there was discussed at all. Yes I did read it. He will break the nations and rule. The context is that creation and the flood are mentioned. 2 Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the...
  17. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    I didn't. I pointed out that the destruction of the planet was at the end of the 1000 years as the bible verse I quoted said. Why did you ignore it? As for rev 19 the verse says this Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the...
  18. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    He was not saying the heaven and earth would cease to exist when He returned to rule here. What nations did you think we ruled over? Why would we need to have an iron rule? That is not in the new earth and heaven! Those last days are before He returns to earth. The reservation for total fire is...
  19. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    False. He lands on the mount of Olives and it is not burned at all! He rules nations that are alive! The flood never destroyed Noah and His return to earth will only destroy the wicked. Not the planet. Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the...
  20. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    We are not ignorant of that any more than we are ignorant that He created the heavens and earth, and that He is eternal with no beginning or end etc etc. That has zero do do with specific time prophesies given for men who know a year and a month and a day as exactly that.