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The time when the dead in Christ rise first then we which remain follow is the Rapture. The return of Jesus to the earth is with us. The Rapture is for us. Don't conflate the return when He brings us with Him with the Rapture when He calls up up to be with Him where He is. That is the Rapture.

If the Rapture kicks off the day of the Lord, that matters how? By the way if Elijah were one of the two endtime witnesses, that would be once...the other time you claim he also comes is..?

Very little that he stands for.

So the question arises, which group of mad scientists are the good guys? How would we know Elon would act differently than other companies with AI? Seems to me there is one way to know. Who is saved? Who talks about and loves Jesus? No AI company comes to mind there?

Looking it up, I see he did start an AI company. "Elon Musk has created a new company dedicated to artificial intelligence — and it’s called X.AI" https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/14/23684005/elon-musk-new-ai-company-x So people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. If other AI...

Did not Musk recently get back into AI in a startup? If so, I guess he likes summoning demons (by his own description)

You thought there were only one set of trumpets?

Jesus said that if we could receive it Elijah had come (John the Baptist) no? So do you think the day of the Lord started then? But let's say you are right, and that the witnesses come 'before' the day of the Lord. So if the Rapture kicks off or starts the day of the Lord, that is a perfect fit!.

We wait for you to do so I try not to get personal, but to look at the content and topic.

No. It is called getting weary of a poster drum rolling a big case for days and failing to produce anything. That was what the post was about. Then the poster finally did produce a few off center verses that I went through. Try dealing with the issues and topic. The poster will do no better than...

Either He is king there and rules or not. The answer is clear. Not. Period.

Asking for support for wild claims is anything but 'vomiting'. Perhaps try to have some manners.

Mountains are a place. Not a town. Great, so what is the connection to that having to be the Petra area exclusively? The verse before spells out who that is for. Isaiah 33:15 He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that...

Ha. After two days of build up we see this nonsense.

So far a big build up for days without support. Maybe try more fire than smoke. I think Petra area may be one of the areas. I just see no reason to make it exclusive.

Then you are wrong. It is obvious that He did not restore them to the land and killed all their enemies, and etc etc etc etc etc.

Yet you did not post scripture. I guess you mean what you think scripture says. Except when we read the passages you post there is no mention of Petra, Funny, that. So far it seems to be all in your head.

So you think that unbelieving Jews will up and leave soon as they see the abomination of desolation? Also, if the rock city were 'prepared of God' would it not have some accommodation for masses? Except I have not seen Him say all those leaving Israel would go to one little town. Any place...

wilderness from the Greek means this érēmos solitary, lonely, desolate, uninhabited used of places a desert, wilderness deserted places, lonely regions an uncultivated region fit for pasturage used of persons deserted by others deprived of the aid and protection of others, especially of...

I saw no bible verses that said all Jews will hole up in Petra. Nor that all the ones on earth saved that are Jews will be in some rock city either. I know none of that actually (except that there is a Petra in Jordan). Prove it. I do not recall Jesus 'ascending' to the mount of Olives. I had...