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Looks like you resorted to parroting cut and paste spam. I think all points have been answered.

He comes for vengeance when He comes back all the way to earth and the mount of Olives. He brings with Him the dead in Christ He already Raptured several years before this event. The ones who come to believe and are on earth after the church rises in the air to meet Him of course will be people...

Yes for the Almighty, time is not something that is a big concern for Himself. Time is for us! And prophesy gives times in a precise way. You do not get to say that because the eternal Almighty creator experiences certain things, that this means His word is a pack of symbolic fairy tales. God...

You do no.ot get to declare that a given time in prophesy is some symbolic expression. People were expected to know the Daniel prophesy about when Messiah would come and know He would be here. The times such as days and years and months in prophesy are there for a reason. They are specific and...

Are you suggesting the army of witnesses God sends in the end are there to waste time only and not bear fruit?

? What did you think the angels and witnesses were doing if no one could be saved?

So a thousand years is really...how long? A week is...how long? A month? You don't get to destroy times in prophesy that have been specified by God. Really.

Can you find the winning lottery numbers in there for next week? Can you find the life of David in there? The flood? Your address? etc etc No one needs to find anything in some random passage you choose. One thing I cannot find in there though is a reason to wave away in disbelief the time...

Prove it Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Plain as the nose on your face In your...

So a fairy tale to you. We get it Yes, lots of fire and judgment even when we return too rule here. Then at the end of the 1000 years, the world is burned and a new one made. The worlldwide burn obviously is not during or before we rule here. Sodom was burned not the world. So shall it be...

The day of the Lord includes a lot actually, such as the millennium. Regardless of whether you consider that a fairy tale

We first meet Him in the air, get our new bodies, and then He takes us to the Father's house. No one who knows Scripture would imagine that His Father's house is at cloud level on earth. Like Jesus went up into the clouds, and went then to His Father's house also!

? So does Gen 1:1 = Hab 1:11? Or do you just invent math as needed? Right, and that should tell you that when He comes in the air to get us and bring us where He is, in His Father's house, that it is not the same time as He returns with us. Not sure how you cross your wires here...

Except you made that up. The yo yo theory is baseless and silly. It also places His bride in the wrath of God. Don't get hung up on numbers just because they don't fit your conflation attempts. It does not say when Jesus returns TO the earth, that this is a "second" coming. Ha. We also have...

You did not answer the question. Does He return to earth with His saints or not? (lurkers, that is a trick question, of course He does) Jude - 14.. “Listen! The Lord is coming with countless thousands of his holy ones 15 to execute judgment on the people of the world Bingo. That is when He...

Except you are making stuff up and I showed it was. Let's start with something easy here. Do you realize we return with Him when He comes back to the earth?

It is as simple as realizing that the wrath is not something we go through. We know there are those last several years. We know the days, and years and months that they will last. We know the saints return with Jesus after that period. So if we are not here in that period, and return with Him...

Try to get a grip. People that may not share your opinions are not going to be convinced by you imagining that they must be deceived. The case you have offered to support your position so far is pathetically weak. Lots of things happen in the last day. That period starts with the Rapture and...

No. God promised to come for us. You conflate the church, which is Raptured, with the new believers that will exist after the Rapture. Do not claim that those who have it strait are deceived.

1 Thess 4:13-18 Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him...