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  1. Naomi25

    John Darby

    Okay...I think I see your point, and its a good one. You are correct that the 'tree of life' may not be strictly a literal fruit tree. However, I think theologically, It does have a solid basis, even if the 'fruit tree' is only symbolic. You see...when Adam and Eve sinned, not only were they...
  2. Naomi25

    John Darby

    Well, in John Christ tells his Disciples that he must leave them in order for the Spirit to come (16:7), who will 'be with us forever' (14:16). We know that in Matt 28:20 that Jesus promised to be with us "to the end of the age"...so how does his 'leaving' and the Spirits 'coming' fit with that...
  3. Naomi25

    Is it a sin for a Christian to vote for a Democrat?

    Well...I'd just say I was paying attention...but also...mostly its conviction. As I suppose all Christians act on, even when we differ. And thus we find the Church in such a disarray on this topic...so many of us are on 'different sides' due to the convictions of what we find morally and...
  4. Naomi25

    Is it a sin for a Christian to vote for a Democrat?

    This is such a fraught question, and I'm not sure there can be a completely 'correct' answer, because the answer lies in men and their platforms, which always let us down. But, despite our uncertainty, I doubt there is anyone at the moment who is not thinking about it, American or not. America...
  5. Naomi25

    John Darby

    Well, thank you...you too are a hard find....its very difficult to find Dispensationalists who are open to just...honest dialogue. Even if that dialogue gets a bit pointy at times. I think we've managed to find our pace after a somewhat rocky start! I'll look forward to more conversation too.
  6. Naomi25

    John Darby

    Man....you are totally missing the point of Romans 11. Yes, the callings and gifts are irrevocable. But Paul is CLEAR on how they come about. Let's look: But if some of the branches (national Israel) were broken off, and you, although a wild olive (believing Gentiles) shoot, were grafted in...
  7. Naomi25

    John Darby

    How do I 'reject it' if I acknowledge that in eternity Christ will be king on this very earth over all peoples and the promises made to Abraham and his heirs (Gal 3:29) will be fulfilled completely and perfectly? In point of fact, isn't it just the time period that I'm putting the fulfilled...
  8. Naomi25

    John Darby

    It probably is. But you will note that the water of life is connected with those who 'are thirsty', those who 'come'. People who drink of this water are those who have sought out or who recognize their need for Christ and his 'living water'. People who reject the need for Christ do not see their...
  9. Naomi25

    John Darby

    I have the same wish...your thoughts always seem...deep...like if I could only grab hold it would be profound! But alas...I struggle. I'll have a stab...please forgive me if I get it wrong. Are you pointing to these passages as saying that 'In Christ', God already dwells with man? Because, yes...
  10. Naomi25

    It is a good place to live, I am very grateful to have grown up here and to have been able to...

    It is a good place to live, I am very grateful to have grown up here and to have been able to raise my kids here.
  11. Naomi25

    Faith-based tattoo: as a result of one, did you ever talk with someone? (Poll included)

    In Australia...the 18th usually involves a trip to a pub. Happily, my daughter eschewed that. She went for a family BBQ. And a game console...she's a nerd at heart. She's much more likely, if she goes for the other things, to just show up with them...surprise! She'd enjoy watching the shock on...
  12. Naomi25

    John Darby

    Very true, and considering how much light the New T sheds on the Old T, this is unsurprising. It's a beautiful thing to be able to look back and see God's providential hand guiding all things towards that moment on the cross...and then more...seeing what the outworking of that plan was to the...
  13. Naomi25

    John Darby

    Well...I wish I had read this post first...I could have saved myself a few hours this morning for all those other posts of yours I just replied to. Ah well. You are, I think, correct. We seem not to be making much headway in convincing each other...if that indeed was our aim. Don't feel you need...
  14. Naomi25

    John Darby

    I don't think I've claimed 'all Jews for all time'. To my knowledge, all I've done is reiterate what scripture has said: that the kingdom will be 'taken away' from the current 'tenants' and given to a 'people' producing fruit. The 'current tenants' was 'national Israel', under the old covenant...
  15. Naomi25

    John Darby

    I can't exactly see your point here, I'm sorry. I have a 'logical' brain, so bear with me as I attempt to work through it. You say we (the church) are experiencing the 'spiritual' nature of the kingdom, (which I don't disagree with) but not the physical nature...and that we have been 'grafted...
  16. Naomi25

    John Darby

    I'll try to put it as succinctly and biblically as I can: By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to a place that he was to receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. By faith he went to live in the land of promise, as in a foreign land, living in...
  17. Naomi25

    John Darby

    As you say, there are many different opinions, even within specific eschatological beliefs. And sure, I would definitely say that there are those who 'spiritualize' way too much. But I'd also say that there are those who attempt to 'literalize' way too much. To the point of absurdity or...
  18. Naomi25

    John Darby

    Which is rather ironic, because the 'rest of this statement' was me reacting to the fact I wasn't sure what you were saying and attempting to cast a wide net in order to give a basic idea of what I thought about the topic in general. So, how's about we shrug, ignore it, and move on.
  19. Naomi25

    John Darby

    So, wait. I know that you are interpreting scripture in a sound, virtuous manner, while at the same time arguing for a completely different interpretation. That either makes me stupid, duplicitous or just very, very confused. I'll take the 4th option which is...I think we are both doing our...
  20. Naomi25

    John Darby

    Right back at 'ya. :p