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    This seems somewhat hypocritical, does it not?

    Great idea. Let the lawyers put forth the idea that the Catholic Hospital doesn't really support Catholic beliefs. Brilliant. That will pretty much negate their claim to exemption to Obamacare's mandate on birth control and abortion access. Nice....
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    This seems somewhat hypocritical, does it not?

    The article states specifically that it is the "Catholic Health" lawyers that are stating the fetuses are not human. Does the hospital say they are wrong? No. And Aspen you would know all about hypocrisy...... You say you are Catholic but you support gay marriage even though the Catholic...
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    Homosexuality: Is it the way a person is born?

    Yup. You have obviously never witnessed to the lost before.
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    This seems somewhat hypocritical, does it not?

    You prove my point again. Instead of addressing the topic you try to change it to be about someone else. You're a one-trick pony, and a bad one at that.
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    Homosexuality

    So obviously you never have witnessed to the lost. Never led someone to Christ. Why is it that that people like you only want to complain from the sideline but never want to actually get in the game?
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    This seems somewhat hypocritical, does it not?

    Typical Aspen. Nothing of value to say on the specific topic so it becomes time to deflect and try to put someone ELSE in the spotlight. Another pathetic whine-by. As a Catholic hospital you can't claim to be exempt from Obamacare's requirements for birth control and access to abortion because...
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    Homosexuality

    Jesus told the sinners, "Go and sin no more"....the exact same message Christians put forth today at His behest. We have been told to preach the Gospel to all nations. God loved you enough to die for you but you will only know His salvation through repentance and rejection of sin. To say Jesus...
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    This Is Inexcusable

    Proof?
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    Homosexuality: Is it the way a person is born?

    Agreed. I want to be left in a position of God asking me why I was silent while I knew specific people were going to hell.
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    Homosexuality: Is it the way a person is born?

    Yup. And there is no better way to show someone you love them than to help them avoid eternal damnation.
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    Homosexuality

    So we are to love homosexuals but not point out to them that their lifestyle guarantees them eternal damnation? How exactly is that love? Sounds like loving them to death. How exactly is a Christian supposed to help someone be "found" as God directs, if they don't at first help them to...
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    This seems somewhat hypocritical, does it not?

    This doesn't seem quite right when you consider that the Catholic Church believes life begins at birth and that Catholic Hospitals and Colleges believe they should be exempt from the Obama Healthcare mandate due to their Catholic beliefs. One also needs to take into account that in CA, if a...
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    This Is Inexcusable

    -- My question is, how exactly would you define "high level Catholic insiders" and why would you, a non-Catholic be trusted by what you imply is more than just one of them?
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    This Is Inexcusable

    -- I would venture to say that a number of pedophiles have joined the priesthood as well, likely for the purpose of having access to small children from a dominant/leadership position.
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    Homosexuality

    -- Insults? This must be that reveling in flawless Christianity you are talking about. Jesus is obviously SO pleased with you ;)
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    This Is Inexcusable

    Now you are really acting the child lol Aspen, are you really that dim? This particular activity may have occurred a couple of decades ago, BUT IT WAS ONLY REPORTED NOW. I just learned about this NOW. The leaders with the Catholic church intentionally and repeatedly turned a blind eye on the...
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    This Is Inexcusable

    -- Aspen must you always play the victim? And a dishonest one at that? I have said multiple times here that there are indeed people within the Catholic church that love Jesus and will be with Him in heaven. I have quoted my pastor more than once who has said that "there are people in the...
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    Homosexuality

    -- Ah, so if a Christian EVER sins, that means he isn't really a Christian. Alas, poor Paul: "I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do...
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    Homosexuality

    And I forgive you for perpetuating unfair blanket accusations against all Christians. Any chance you'll remember why you left so you can act on it?
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    This Is Inexcusable

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-church-files-20130122,0,3114631.story L.A CHURCH LEADERS SOUGHT TO HIDE SEX ABUSE CASES FROM AUTHORITIES L.A. church leaders sought to hide sex abuse cases from authorities Documents from the late 1980s show that Archbishop Roger M. Mahony and another...