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That's fine, and likewise, I was explaining how I disagreed. :)

How do you deal with the fact that Paul specifically makes the Church and Israel one? Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. -Galatians 3:7 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ...

This is all very nicely plotted out, but the problem comes when laid out with other scriptures that place the resurrection of dead...ALL the dead, even the unrighteous dead...at the same time. As well as verses that place the Rapture, that 'secret signal' at an event that is witnessed by 'all...

Again, I'm sorry...but...I just don't see it. I don't see what you're trying to plot out. And I most certainly don't see any scripture that seems to support it. I'm not, at this point, saying its not there or you're wrong...just that I'm not seeing it and you've not presented it. And without...

Yeah....sorry...I'm not sure I quite get what you're saying. I'm coming into the conversation late and haven't had the time to read all previous pages, so I haven't had the chance to watch your thoughts develop. My point was not so much about time frames. Just that...when Christ returns to wrap...

Enoch, you mistake concern for contempt. I know too many excellent Christians who hold to Dispensational understanding to have contempt for them, or even it. I do have a very high level of concern for it, and the misconceptions needed to hold it, however. That's all. Except...does the bible...

Forgive me, but when it comes to nonsensical teachings, I do believe Dispensationalism takes the cake. In any number of ways, but most readily in the blatant disregard of the commonsense reading of scripture. For example: These two passages are widely acknowledged as a "Rapture" passages. For...

@aspen I feel I should probably add: if there were another alternative that allowed a Christian to vote for a pro-life, anti-muppet candidate and perhaps not having to worry about one who’s in early on-set dementia....well then...yes...that also would be a no-brainer. Trump, as I see it, is...

I appreciate it’s a tricky topic, especially when we discuss it in line with our religious beliefs. But as we do indeed live with them both, I agree it’s an important conversation to have; as agreeably as possible. Politicians, by nature (I think), are nasty creatures. They love to smooze and...

Aspen. I know you mean very well. But I’m sorry, this is incredibly misplaced. Are there some “right wing” people that are extreme like this? Certainly. But by far the most conservative folk...the ones you are lumping all together, are those who have built these nations up to believe in...

Well, it’s surely true that the OT isn’t to be dismissed, and the Temple was set up as a reflection of the heavenly, which cannot pass away. But we would do well to remember what happened to the inner sanctuary when Christ died on the cross. The veil was torn giving all men access to the “Holy...

It’s certainly true we have an accurate picture of God in Christ...he tells us that very thing! But, I think we need to remember that when Christ came the first time, it was in humility and humanity. Which means that even though he was still divine, his divinity was not on full display. When we...

We all intellectually acknowledge that God is worthy to be praised. But I think it’s probably impossible for us to truly grasp what sort of being God is, to be worthy of praise from time immemorial to eternity future. To be so worthy that there are great, mighty beings whose very existence is to...

I just hear the hymn! I think holiness is something we could ponder on forever, and probably will. It's one of God's attributes, that which makes him worthy of praise, worthy of being Judge. I think about the angelic beings gathered about the Throne of God, who sing "Holy, Holy Holy"...and even...

Okay. Sure. Have done. And I find it just a little bit of a linguistic stretch to say that a word that means primarily "to strike under the eye" also can be read as "the restrainer". That would have to be in the same category as someone saying "im gonna bop you over the head"...and another...

Two things: firstly...just because someone homeschools, does not mean they are cave-dwelling morons. Thank you. Second, I find it rather astounding the number of people who just nod their heads in shock and outrage at what the media touts about...well...anything. Trump may, or may not, be a...

Still not exactly following you in terms of the conversation. How do any of these verses point to 2 Thess 2? Or rather...how do they prove me incorrect when I say that no other verse directly references 'the restrainer'? Even if you are pulling together some point that speaks to the issue...

And maybe by saying really spiritual things we can duck the obvious. But...by all means, if you can point out where I'm in error, please do so. If you can find another outright reference to "the restrainer" in scripture, I'm all ears and incredibly interested. But if not, all your arguments are...

I don't think you understand me. I'm not saying we cannot discuss who the restrainer is. I'm not even saying we cannot come to a reasonable understanding of who he might be. I'm saying that the bible doesn't seem to outright mention "the restrainer" elsewhere. And that, therefore, all...