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See, this is fairly laughable, for two reasons. One...it is literally impossible for you to prove I haven't read those verses. And since I have, in fact, read them, it actually makes you 100% wrong. You, therefore, are making a claim about me that is basically false witness. But, you know, go...

"IF I had read them". There's that amazing assumption...or presumption again. Here's the deal Bobby. You're the one making the claims about these verses. Do you know what that means? That means the onus is upon YOU to prove that they say what you claim they do. So, hows about this: you list out...

Bobby: you assume people haven't read these passages. The fact that you have read what you want to see into these passages does not make us "not Christians". And it doesn't make what you want be there, there. And here's the thing: I disagree with you. I don't hide it. Heck, at this point, I...

Yes, I agree...that was the point I was attempting to make. :)

Maybe I am hard headed. But....I feel quite contented to just sit back and wait and see about this one. History proves all things, huh, and the 'modern' prophets are batting at about zero.

Well...I think it depends on how you classify 'time of wrath'. I think...that there may be a divide between how some see the final time on earth. Some view it as a prelude to final judgement, which, clearly, those saved are not subject to. Which may explain why they are so adamant on the Church...

Well your post is most certainly longer, with extra scripture, then when I answered it. You can go back and look at what I replied to (#138), it only shows your "incomplete" answer. So you can forgive me for wondering if you've backtracked and added. But, to be perfectly honest, it doesn't...

Well, I don’t know...will he? Isn’t it rather an assumption that Satan would appear as a man? Or a man with horns and a pointy tail? Only humankind was made “in the image of God”. Whether that means bipedal it has something more to do with being Gods representatives on Earth, we can still say...

No. Not your job. But when you come on here and start laying around with your "your opinion is on my nose, you heretic" sort of bullishness, then you either need to front up or shut up, wouldn't you say? It's easy to be loud Bobby. But sometimes its hard to have something useful to say.

That's not "confirmed as Scriptural and Historical". Sorry, but....as well meaning as many of the TV evangelists are, they are hardly what I would call sound proof. What you have provided above, sir, is nothing but a bunch of people's opinions and wishful thinking. Is there ANY scriptural...

That makes zero sense. The beast that speaks like a dragon IS a dragon...except its not described as a dragon. So, you're just assuming its a dragon. The text says beast. It says is speaks like a dragon. That means it cannot LOOK like a dragon, because otherwise we'd just be told 'it spoke'...

I'm so glad you bought this up. Because these two little verses are not the complete picture, not by far. Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing...

Yes, because there is a clear and "ancient" difference between those Christ addressed and those Paul addressed. Your argument doesn't stack up. Either God had what is written in scripture put there because it has relevance for all his Church, or it doesn't. And what makes YOU the person...

Then your logic is faulty. Firstly, 'my' Event #1 has never happened, so...whatever. Secondly, Event #2 is clearly described in scripture. Jesus returns WITH the sound of a trumpet. Make of that what you will. But it's there in black and white. Also, your description of "scriptures...

Again, I think you are mistaken. The False Prophet is yet another Beast. Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship...

Oh, but you know better? Because we're 'not ancient' we get special revelation? Anyone claiming updated or special revelation and thinks, therefore, that they can disregard what is written in scripture rings my 'edge around them while making little sound' bell. How's this: you plan your seasons...

So...you're suggesting, somehow...that the logic I'm using is akin to wedging a time-gap into when Trump got elected...making him an 'infant' then, and old now? I'd dearly love to know how: 1) you arrived at that conclusion, 2) you see me arriving at that conclusion, and 3) you can back up the...

I'm sorry, but....huh? o_O What on earth does Donald Trump have to do with anything? Generally any sequences happening over a frame of time, IS chronological, so you may need to explain your reasoning just a tad. Plus, if you can provide any biblical verse specifying two separate 'coming'...

"Know"? This is a strong word to use when the texts would cast doubt onto it. I think we could undoubtedly say that Satan is behind the antichrist. That the antichrist is Satan's meat-puppet, if you will. But when we look at Revelation 13 we see the Beast, the representation of the antichrist...