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You keep denying the obvious. You have to accept Christ to be saved by the blood of Christ. Most of the Jews are currently in blindness and do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah. Part of Israel will not have its blindness removed until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. Ephesians 2 13...

It is your false contention that Jesus will be on earth at the time of any of those possible raptures. Enoch was whisked away, Elijah was whisked away. The 144,000 will be whisked away. Just as the Church will be whisked away. God tells us why in His Word. We are to attend the marriage supper...

Hmmmm Please produce a Biblical proof that it is the Church being raptured from the earth in 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27. I already know that you cannot possibly do it. Please Biblical proof that 1 Thessalonians 4 references a post tribulation rapture. I already know that you cannot possibly do...

If you don't feel it is appropriate to accept what is written and don't make things up it's all good. So you're telling me you think the 144,000 is the Church. Yes, but it seems you want to ignore the timing of the two folds becoming one. It can't happen until they believe. I think in the...

There is the rapture of the dead in Christ, then the Lord returns for the alive that remains. That is two, but they are the grain harvest, barley and wheat so it can be called one. Then there is the rapture of the 144,000 that are redeemed from the earth as first fruits of the fruit harvest...

The fact He is coming in an hour that you think not IS revealed Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Do you think all this alien abduction nonsense is spread around for no reason? The world will not know when He comes for the Church, so the...

The rapture of the Church will be a SECRET RAPTURE. Here is the rapture of the dead in Christ in the Old Testament. Jesus is standing behind the wall showing Himself through the Lattice. It is springtime. The dead in Christ rise first: The barley harvest. Jesus is not seen or heard by the...

It's really hard to get my point across as I often forget you haven't heard much of what I say before. 1 Thes 4 is about the rapture of the Church. The has already happened before the seals are opened. Thats why there are kings and priest in heaven in Rev 5 and 24 elders with crowns. You don't...

I'm not making things clear........that much is sure. The point I'm trying to make is that the elect that are gathered from the earth in Matthew 24 are not the mostly Gentile Church. The Church will already be in heaven before Jesus comes in Matthew 24. The elect that are gathered from the...

Of course. The Gentiles will be the first harvest. And those of the twelve tribes, the seed of the woman will be the second harvest. Both are the elect. Okay. The Church is made up of mostly Gentiles at this time. When the fullness of the Gentiles comes in at the rapture, part of Israel will...

You fail to recognize what is going to come to pass. Be not ignorant of this. Romans 11 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted...

Why do you not think the 70th week is over after the 7th seal is complete..........meaning that the 7th trumpet has sounded? No Douggg. The great tribulation is over at the 6th seal. It is marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. IMMEDIATELY after the tribulation...............that...

No sir. When the 7th trumpet sounds, the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. Armageddon is OVER. Christ has set up His kingdom on the earth. The wrath of God is OVER. When you are reading Revelation 13 and 14 you are back in the 1st 6 seals. When you are reading...

LOL. Right. New Testament times. Here's some New Testament times that refute your claim Romans 11 11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot...

Here is THE great tribulation in Matthew 24 Matthew 24 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. The tribulation of THOSE days is the Great Tribulation because the great tribulation is such as was not since the...

There is absolutely no Biblical proof that the Church is gathered FROM THE EARTH immediately after the tribulation. Yes, there is a rapture immediately after the tribulation, but it is not the Church being raptured from the earth at this time. He comes for the Church in an hour that you think...

The real point is that I used the Word of God to prove that the tribulation of those days was the great tribulation. It appears that the Word of God is not enough proof for you.

This is incorrect sir. The wrath of God is over at the 7th trumpet. I'm not sure how that can be any clearer. Yes, I have used it a lot. Yes, it has layers. It's like a lesser version of photoshop. The good thing about my so called opinion, is that I just go by what the Word says. I don't...

The tribulation is over at the 6th seal. The 5 months in Rev 9 occurs after the great tribulation is already over. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers...

Come on Douggg. The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord means that Christ has set up His kingdom on earth. I could probably improvise and use paint.net or photoshop The most important thing to know is that the tribulation is over before the wrath of God begins.