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  1. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    No Douggg I can't agree with that. The tribulation is over at the 6th seal. We know that by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. Think Douggg. IMMETIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION. Jesus returns for the SECOND harvest. That occurs at the 6th seal. We know that because of the signs of the sun, moon...
  2. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    The great tribulation has nothing whatsoever to do with the 7 trumpets and 7 bowls. The great tribulation is period of time when the dragon is killing all the believers, and is over at the 6th seal.. The trumpets and bowls are the wrath of God and are the 7th seal. The day of the Lord is 1 year...
  3. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Nice. So I'm not a liar? Actually, the Church has been raptured before the tribulation which is why they are seen in heaven in Rev 5. And part of those in the great multitude are the Church which is gathered from heaven and then returned to heaven. The other part of the great multitude which is...
  4. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Isaiah 34 4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree. Rev 6 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig...
  5. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    The Word explains the Word. Such as 2 Peter 3 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. Hosea 6 2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his...
  6. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Just going by what the Word says. The day of wrath lasts one year. And then er ah............... Ezekiel 4 6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year. These...
  7. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Rev 11 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the...
  8. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    I pasted this verse, and the spelling corrector wanted me to change this to HAS COME. However, look at the verses below. See any problems. There are dozens and dozens more. Rev 11 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and...
  9. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    The mystery of God is FINISHED at the 7th trumpet. Revelation 10 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Christ has set up on His kingdom on earth. And you think...
  10. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    LOL. They start out on the mountain and are redeemed FROM THE EARTH. They are before the throne that happens to be located in heaven. Why is everything so complicated?
  11. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Douggg, this verse in Matthew 24 does not mean "if the days were not shortened, no flesh on earth will survive." The verse means that if the days of the great tribulation were not shortened, there would be no flesh that would be raptured alive at the 6th seal. All the believers would be killed...
  12. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Hmm. Oh. You are unaware that the throne of God is in heaven. So because you are unaware of this you think I have added to Revelation? Revelation 7 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before...
  13. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Now you are mistaken that HE is mistaken. :contemplate: :D
  14. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    You don't think I'll like it? You are correct, I love it. I am actually shocked that you understand this. Yes Revelation 7 and the beginning of Revelation 15 are speaking of the same event..............which is why I posted it. It is different information of the same timeframe. Those that are...
  15. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    I understand that you disagree. But you are only disagreeing with what the Word says. I don't know how to make it any clearer than the past post. However............. 1. Matthew 24 shows us the great tribulation which is a time like no other. 2. Matthew 24 shows us that immediately after the...
  16. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    The time period of great tribulation being discussed in Rev 7 is great tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor...
  17. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Goodness. Matthew 24 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. The great tribulation.........such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be..........IS THE TRIBULATION OF...
  18. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Sure. But the tribulation we are speaking of is when those came out of great tribulation in Rev 7. The scripture verses that I posted PROVE that it is THE Great Tribulation being discussed.
  19. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Have you ever seen a lunar eclipse? When there is a full lunar eclipse, the moon does not give it light as the earth blocks it. But then the longer light waves such as red and orange bend around the earth and you see a red moon. So the moon goes dark and then eventually turns red. The next...
  20. The Light

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    You are correct. I'm not mistaken. Here is the great tribulation. Matthew 24 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Here is the signs of the sun, moon and stars immediately after the tribulation of those...