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  1. Wormwood

    Apologetics of low interest in churches

    Oz, Thank you for your reply. I just want to remind you, Oz, that I am not a "postmodern" thinker. I am very modern in my approach and I do believe in absolutes and that the Bible is inerrant. I am simply pointing out that postmodernism makes some worthwhile points that need consideration...
  2. Wormwood

    Apologetics of low interest in churches

    That is true, Stan. It also reminds us that we can never really escape our biases. We can educate ourselves and try to be diligent to understand our own biases and try to protect against those and we can humbly try to learn from others with the expectation that we could be wrong. Yet, even...
  3. Wormwood

    Imminent.

    I didnt say there was a "gap" in the middle of a "seven." Let me give you a brief rundown of my understanding of Daniel's weeks The completion of the vision decreed for God's people = 70 weeks (490 years). 7 weeks to the command to build rebuild Jerusalem 62 weeks after Jerusalem is rebuilt...
  4. Wormwood

    Apologetics of low interest in churches

    Oz, I have to respectfully disagree. Most young people today are "postmodern" in their thinking. Most of them do not have a clue what "deconstructing" means. Derrida, the philosopher behind deconstruction, would himself not even associate his philosophy as postmodernism. Foucault is...
  5. Wormwood

    Imminent.

    Context, Marcus, context. “As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”” (Matthew 24:3, ESV) What are "these things"? Well, they are the things...
  6. Wormwood

    Imminent.

    Actually, Jesus speaks to both issues. He speaks of the destruction of the Temple as well as his second coming. Consider the following... Lets look at the above text. The red I have marked as something that Jesus was telling his disciples would happen to them. Much of this also applies to...
  7. Wormwood

    Apologetics of low interest in churches

    Oz, thanks for your response. It is true that deconstruction of documents is a byproduct of postmodernism. However, I see this as no different than the redaction and form criticism that was a byproduct of modernism. It is not true that all postmoderns are deconstructionists (or even...
  8. Wormwood

    Imminent.

    Come on Marcus. These are just word games. My view of prophecy does not demand another Temple to be rebuilt or the reinstitution of animal sacrifices. Let us not confuse your interpretation of what the Bible says with what it actually says. Your interpretation (dispensationalism) demands it...
  9. Wormwood

    Imminent.

    Marcus, There are so many assumptions in your posts that it is hard to even know where to begin. I am charging dispensationalism with the crime of rhetorical games? How am i charging dispensationalism with rhetorical games? I am not sure what you are trying to say here as it doesnt seem to...
  10. Wormwood

    No Church Will Accept Me

    Chilehead, Based on the little you wrote, I would agree with you. I consider myself Amillennial and view Revelation cyclically rather than chronologically. I think 1 Thess. 4-5 indicate that the "rapture" involves the Second coming, the resurrection of the death, the ultimate judgment of the...
  11. Wormwood

    Apologetics of low interest in churches

    Hey Oz, Very interesting article. I think he makes some strong points. I specifically agree with him that postmodernity is really turning into more of a hyper modernity than anything else. This is also the claim of those in the camp of Radical Orthodoxy. Though I do not agree with all...
  12. Wormwood

    Imminent.

    I am sure you have your own unique flavor of dispensationalism. However, I am dealing with the view in general...how it is generally presented. Many who are dispensationalists believe the Temple has to be rebuilt in Israel and sacrifices have to be reinstituted. I mean, that is the purpose of...
  13. Wormwood

    No Church Will Accept Me

    Im very sorry to hear that. I would like to hear more about your views on eschatology. I am sure you will find here lots of varying opinions and though we allow for vigorous debate, we do not silence people or kick them out for minority views. I hold a lot of minority views on various issues...
  14. Wormwood

    Apologetics of low interest in churches

    Thanks for your response, Oz. I recognize this can be a challenging issue that impacts various aspects of teaching, discipleship and how we maintain the integrity of the Gospel while connecting to people who's worldview would be dismissive of the absolute claims of that same Gospel. Here are...
  15. Wormwood

    Imminent.

    I think any turn back to the OT and Temple sacrifices is a very problematic doctrine. Even if someone interprets Romans as Paul saying the entire nation of Israel will be saved (which I do not find at all to be what Paul is saying), that still has nothing to do with OT promises left unfulfilled...
  16. Wormwood

    No Church Will Accept Me

    Chilehead, Just a couple quick observations. First, if you are looking for believers who do not make the concept of the "rapture" part of their eschatology, I would recommend some non-denominational Christian Churches or even some from the holiness traditions (such as Nazarene, Wesleyan...
  17. Wormwood

    Charismata and Church Doctrine

    Rocky, The charismatic movement emerged out of the Holiness movement via Wesley that sought to combat the nominalism of his day and push for a more experiential and holiness-producing walk with God. So, although the charismatic movement tends to emphasize more of Wesley's experiental emphasis...
  18. Wormwood

    Apologetics of low interest in churches

    Oz, Thanks for your response. Again, I think you are approaching this the wrong way. It is not a matter of "right" or "wrong" but how to effectively communicate with a worldview. You will never convince people with facts if they are uninterested in facts. That is my point. Paul spoke to...
  19. Wormwood

    Imminent.

    Okay, let me go back and address a few issues. I wont try to tackle it all due to time constraints. Good movie, but I dont think so. You said, "I take a literal approach." Of course, most of the time when dispensationals say this, they are accusing, often outrightly of saying those who see...
  20. Wormwood

    Imminent.

    "Since the Churches being written to surpass the physical locales of the time, (indeed, the choice of cities have been likened to Church types over the last 2000 years) and since the message to the Churches is for all variations of Churches without regard for the time they live in during the...